in reply to PostgreSQL, Emacs, and other groupieware

Hello Wassercrat(s)

What, excactly, is your point in this post? You had difficulty installing 2 open source applications on windows (one of which doesn't even have a completed Windows port) . Well, that's possible. By the way, the biggest problem I ever had with gzip'd tar files on windows was that the (commercial) Winzip application defaults to messing with the line-endings of unix files.

Then you claim that people who are able to install and use open source software and like it are "young liberal programmers". Thanks for calling me young, but please don't pretend to know my political preferences.

Then you go off about "less popular operating systems" where the products work better. I can assure you postgres works perfecly on Linux, yes. I have also used different emacsen on windows, linux and amigaos, and they all worked pretty well, but then emacs has been around since 1976, and works nearly everywhere.

Also this sentence: "but some users will deal with the setup and usage difficulties just because people they know use the product" makes no sense to me. If I use emacs (which I don't, I prefer vim) why would it give someone else usage difficulties?

Oh yes: what does all of this have to do with Perl?

To be a little more helpful, here's a list of editors I've used on windows and do not suck:

textpad (commercial), vim (variants: gvim, vim and cygwin vim), xemacs, eclipse and ultraedit (commercial) update: and I also like MS Visual Studio, go figure.

update2: if you really think commercial products are easier to install and use I suggest you download the oracle database installer and try to get it to do something useful.

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