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Re^3: PostgreSQL, Emacs, and other groupieware
by hardburn (Abbot) on Aug 01, 2004 at 14:25 UTC

    There is absolutely a positive correlation between ease of installation and the quality of a product.

    On my system, installing Emacs is this diffcult:

    sudo emerge emacs

    And the rest is done. However:

    sudo emerge IE

    Doesn't work. I therfore conclude that IE is a crappy browser for having a poor installation mechanism on Gentoo GNU/Linux.

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    send money to your kernel via the boot loader.. This and more wisdom available from Markov Hardburn.

Re^3: PostgreSQL, Emacs, and other groupieware
by Golo (Friar) on Aug 01, 2004 at 03:48 UTC
    Software without an installer is incomplete and unlikely to be able to compete with traditional commercial software
    Ever thought about the possibility that some software might be targeted at a group with a certain skill level? This could be the reason why most people don't try to blame the software to be incomplete just because the installation and configuration cannot be done using a "admin for dummy" wizard.
    Despite the fact that I often get annoyed by time consuming installations, I think that this even is a big benefit as I am forced to learn something on the way. IMHO, providing easy installation wizards in areas where some knowledge is badly required is a big mistake.
    I cannot speak for emacs, but for PostgreSQL I would suggest that you should take your installation trouble as an indication for a problem at your end. I mean, why do you try to install it on a platform (Win32) it's not designed for anyways?

    Golo
    (who just couldn't resist anymore and agrees to davidj- real admins get it done, and the rest should leave it to the real ones.)
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