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RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: grap ctrl+c when exe
by knight (Friar) on Oct 29, 2000 at 02:26 UTC
    Wait a minute--I have to be root to install it? You just said several messages ago that it was a "simple" install, and now I have to involve my administrator...?

    Okay, Adam's statement about "Perl's downfall" is overblown, but the fact remains that Perl's model of installation and module use cut it off from some user communities. Mind you, as a programmer, I know firsthand that the power and flexibility of Perl's modules outweigh the disadvantages. But pretending that there isn't any downside to it at all--that it's the perfect, be-all-and-end-all way that every system out there should be administered--is blind to the realities of a lot of potential users out there.
      Thank you.

      I don't think my statement is overblown... In fact I enjoy writing Perl and working with Perl, so I think its rather sad that it is so difficult to get people to accept the idea of a single compiled executable. In a sense, if this is the biggest problem, then that's a Good Thing. On the other hand, it is a problem and Gurus like merlyn (who has my respect as an excellent Perl coder) need to be more open minded about it.

        I don't think my statement is overblown...

        True, not the gist of it. I was specifically thinking of the "downfall of Perl" part, which I think overstates the case a little.

        Perl will continue to survive and prosper and enable all sorts of great coding even if its installation/module model stays exactly the same. If the model doesn't evolve, though, Perl-based software will remain largely of, by, and for programmers, and remain cut off from a lot of users who could benefit from it (IMHO). Whether that's a direction Perl "should" take, though, given the impact it would have on the community and ethos, I'm not informed enough to say.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: grap ctrl+c when exe
by little (Curate) on Oct 29, 2000 at 17:49 UTC
    I'd wish:
    it would look up nearest available CPAN archive for the required module, but not before performing a spellcheck :-)
    it would install the module in a lib directory of the user as long as there are more users than roots out there :-)
    if no directory is specified the module should "fall back" to a "standard value"
    it would then use the lib
    as long as all this sound like music it actually is only based on various package managers for perl and unix.
    Didn't I hear something like: "with Perl you can do everything"? And in this case I don't see that it would be something the world doesn't need at all.
    Have a nice day
    All decision is left to your taste
RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: grap ctrl+c when exe
by knight (Friar) on Oct 29, 2000 at 02:30 UTC
    D'oh--accidently reloaded the reply node. Deletion of this node has been requested.