You're right.. you won't.. you'll just know that a problem exists. Sorry I would (personally) hate to make an assumption based on the OP's comments and lead them wrong. Your solution does work..assuming everything starts with "EMP"..but my assumption (see!? hehe) was that EMP stood for employer (in my line of work that's a common abbrev... I don't know if that's standard or not)..so I believed that all the fields would not in fact begin with that. It really doesn't matter .. your solution works under that assumption and it is a good solution...however I just want to make sure the OP gives us good info so we can help it understand what we reccomend.. /ramble off