It's on slashdot, Tim Bray's Top Twenty Software People in the World, discussing this article: The i-Technology Right Stuff: Searching for the Twenty Top Software People in the World. In the proposed list of people, you see creators of: C, Java, python, etc., but not perl!

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Re: Larry Wall did not make the list!
by woolfy (Chaplain) on Dec 11, 2004 at 20:10 UTC
    Well, did you add feedback to their long list of feedback? I mean, tell them that you want Larry Wall on that list. I just did, and I saw that I am not the only one. Just join me and many others. Tell'em! Hah, Guido van Rossem is on that list, so Larry Wall should certainly be there.
      Guido van Rossem is on that list, so Larry Wall should certainly be there.

      My hypothesis:

      Larry Wall is not on the list, precisely because Guido is.

Re: Larry Wall did not make the list!
by dws (Chancellor) on Dec 14, 2004 at 07:53 UTC
Re: Larry Wall did not make the list!
by BUU (Prior) on Dec 12, 2004 at 06:55 UTC
    It's fairly obvious if you actually read the list that it was just designed to provoke controversy by leaving several obvious people off the list. Not worth paying attention to.
      It's fairly obvious if you actually read the list that it was just designed to provoke controversy by leaving several obvious people off the list.

      I'm not sure it's that way deliberately; to me it just feels like it was thrown together rather carelessly. It has all the hallmarks of being poorly researched. Probably everyone on the list did or does something that is personally useful to the author(s). You'll notice that certain companies (notably Sun and Google) have their current and former employees quite heavily represented. It's almost a sure thing that the place where the author(s) work(s) relies heavily on those companies' products. This probably reflects their whole approach: what companies are important, and who are their key people?

      The blurbs are also careless; Kernighan's blurb, for example, says nothing about C.

      When people like Knuth aren't on the list, you sort of figure the list is just not all that well thought-out.


      "In adjectives, with the addition of inflectional endings, a changeable long vowel (Qamets or Tsere) in an open, propretonic syllable will reduce to Vocal Shewa. This type of change occurs when the open, pretonic syllable of the masculine singular adjective becomes propretonic with the addition of inflectional endings."  — Pratico & Van Pelt, BBHG, p68
Re: Larry Wall did not make the list!
by zentara (Cardinal) on Dec 12, 2004 at 11:45 UTC
    Most lists have an "agenda" which they are promoting. After reading the article, it looks like a bunch of corporate-self-promoters. Perl is too 'wild and free' to be considered "the right stuff" by the stiffs in the corporate fantasy world, who want "order and conformity".

    I'm not really a human, but I play one on earth. flash japh

      This comment put a smile on my face today. Thanks, zentara. :)

Re: Larry Wall did not make the list!
by hardburn (Abbot) on Dec 14, 2004 at 15:15 UTC

    That list is simply promoting whatever is trendy at the moment. I can think of a lot of people who deserve to be on there more than "Jon Gay: The 'Father of Flash'". Like John McCarthy.

    "There is no shame in being self-taught, only in not trying to learn in the first place." -- Atrus, Myst: The Book of D'ni.

Re: Larry Wall did not make the list!
by Xiong (Hermit) on Jun 29, 2010 at 13:36 UTC

    You know how journalists build these lists. They go through the morgue and count headlines. I recall, oh, about 20 years ago, a list published of the Top Ten Coolest Cities in US. Included was "Wicker Park", a neighborhood in Chicago; Chicago did not make the list.

    - the lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne -
      You know how journalists build these lists.

      Not by practicing journalism