in reply to Re: Parrot, the future of dynamic languages ?
in thread Parrot, the future of dynamic languages ?

The audience is expected to be IT managers, people whom are mostly see Perl stereo-typed. They probably have never heard of most of the other languages, maybe only PHP and about Perl they have misconceptions (shell replacement language))

Actually Zeev Suraski of Zend will talk about an hour after me, so they will hear about PHP a lot.

I think your questions were really in place, so what are the answeres ?

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Re^3: The audience
by xorl (Deacon) on Dec 20, 2004 at 15:03 UTC
    I'll probably get downvoted for this, but even after many years of using Perl, I still think of it as a shell replacement language. Heck in the interview for the job I have now, I even said I don't bother with bash scripting, I just use perl.

      The issue is not whether Perl is ALSO a shell replacement language. The issue is that some people think it's JUST a shell replacement language.

      Jenda
      We'd like to help you learn to help yourself
      Look around you, all you see are sympathetic eyes
      Stroll around the grounds until you feel at home
         -- P. Simon in Mrs. Robinson

      And I DO see the end of Java and C#, and NET except for the corporate fools who will hang on to it, because they "invested their life's training" into it.

      First of all many corporate fools use and also hang onto Perl. Perl is not just the domain of the hobbyist.

      And second of all you rightly point out there is a magnitude more trained up MS and Sun developers than Perl developers. But is seldom takes 'a life training' to learn a language. Its all just syntax, Give me someone trained in programming theory and best practice over someone who is blindly wed to a syntax anyday. it's not really a like for like comparison to compare Perl with Langauges that have been extended with Enterprise frameworks