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Why is the Monastery successful ?

Some enriching reading for you : Why does PerlMonks work?

the reasons PHP has significantly more users in the web development area is that they understand the web better than we, Perl developers do

How do they understand the web better than us?

By spreading the net with a bunch of SQL-injection prone sites?
By encouraging the passage of variables from the user input to HTML rendering without checking anything?
By making it easy the bad habit of mixing programming logic and output?

It's true that you can write bad code in every language, but PHP makes things really easy for bad coders.

How bad coding habits increases their "understanding of the web" is really beyond me.

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Re^2: OT :Web forum or mailing list ?
by submersible_toaster (Chaplain) on Feb 13, 2005 at 12:59 UTC

    I can only agree with dbwiz ,

    It's true that you can write bad code in every language, but PHP makes things really easy for bad coders.

    Update:Fixed wrong order blockquote,italic tags. Thanks Fletch.
    I submit the following example I was confronted with recently after migrating an 'acquired' companies site from a Cobalt. Names have been changed to protect the guilty. I'm trying to discover why and how much they paid for this abortion.

    I discussed with the developer the register_globals-ness of this code and it's reliance on php4.2.x session side effects and other things. His suggestion to

    Best thing is look at the php.ini file on the old server. Also make sure the versions of php and mysql are the same.

    Yeah - php and mysql circa 2002. This message broke the light barrier on it's way my supervisor.

    Read more... (2 kB)
    I particularly like
    • the boilerplate cargo cult'd from ???
    • the purpose definition in the boilerplate
    • function is_admin
    • function page_close


    I can't believe it's not psellchecked
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Re^2: Web forum or mailing list ?
by szabgab (Priest) on Feb 13, 2005 at 17:32 UTC
    It's true that you can write bad code in every language, but PHP makes things really easy for bad coders.

    Interesting, I knew this sentece in this form:

    It's true that you can write bad code in every language, but Perl makes things really easy for bad coders.

    Anyway, I never said PHP programmer know how to write code. I said they understand how the web works. It might not have been clear but I meant what they create seems to be much more (web)user (and beginner) friendly. Both for end users and for beginner web application developers.

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