Ha-ha, thank you for taking this in the spirit intended, revdiablo++. I was going to just respond in the original thread but decided this deserved airing in a separate forum. Your expansion above is exactly right. As both Larry and Brian D. Foy have stated, having the courage to whip your code into shape is an essential attribute of a successful programmer.

In my ORSP classes, we point kids towards thinking for themselves, but an equally important attribute is trusting yourself to be able to come up out of the water once you step off the deep end.