Thanks cazz. For one of the pages it was a snap to modify the action to a public cgi (Thanks to Rebol for http://www.reboltech.com/cgi-bin/rebol/test.cgi )

Another page has a whole lot of java and hidden values, so I checked it using a demo of the product that hooks the ssl calls. Of course the values are hidden to make you pay the cash.

Tried one ssl proxy to no avail so will now try stunnel or the dns route.

Cheers.