One of those cases where it is usefull to know how it actualy works in eperience agiansn't the realm of the possibilites. So it sounds like for that particular goal it does the right job. Thanks for the info. I think if you are going to send emails that a emailed verification code would still be best because it means most you are sending 1 unwanted email to someone. I'm guessing however that you use that as well and just use Mail::CheckUser to verify the address might be an address, then use further means to make sure it the right users address.