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They act as a filter reducing the number of abysmally ignorant people, but are worse than useless for figuring out who is competent

If you're the poor SOB with 150 CVs on your desk and only a couple of hours to get an interview shortlist then a "filter reducing the number of abysmally ignorant people" is a tool that you will often reach for.

If you want to be hired by that poor SOB then you have the problem of CertificationAsProgrammerTax .

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Re^6: What is your opinion in Perl Certified Professional?
by tilly (Archbishop) on May 02, 2005 at 01:52 UTC
    You will only reach for the tool if the tool is there to reach for.

    I personally do not wish to be filtered for/against on that kind of basis, nor do I wish to work with people who were filtered for in that way. This means that I have no desire to see that tool come into existence.

    I am therefore happy that Larry Wall hasn't given his endorsement to anyone who is trying to do that.

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      I personally do not wish to be filtered for/against on that kind of basis, nor do I wish to work with people who were filtered for in that way. This means that I have no desire to see that tool come into existence.

      Complete 100% agreement from me there. I personally think that the problems of certification outweigh the questionable advantages.

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Re^6: What is your opinion in Perl Certified Professional?
by apotheon (Deacon) on May 02, 2005 at 08:03 UTC

    I've never found the "A filter is needed!" argument to be very useful or valid. If all you care about is a filter, use a random number generator (like maybe dice). If what you want is a GOOD filter, you should probably avoid certifications.

    print substr("Just another Perl hacker", 0, -2);
    		 - apotheon
    CopyWrite Chad Perrin

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        Yes, that's a problem. In fact, it seems that most employers feel that way. I'll never be one of them (if I'm ever in a position to employ people, that is).

        print substr("Just another Perl hacker", 0, -2);
        		 - apotheon
        CopyWrite Chad Perrin

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