Dear Master Monks,

I have noticed that a lot of monks answer nodes before they are approved, but yet, even though they are at a sufficient level, they do not approve them. Why not?

Is it bad to approve nodes?

Thanks,
Gavin.

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Re: Answering Nodes and Approving them.
by davido (Cardinal) on May 17, 2005 at 16:04 UTC

    It's just a bad habbit, that's all. ...or a sort of race condition, where the followup was posted, and you read it before the follwer-up had time to approve. But 90% of the time it's just that the followers-up haven't been as motivated to approve as they were to respond. We all do it, but we should all remember to approve.


    Dave

Re: Answering Nodes and Approving them.
by VSarkiss (Monsignor) on May 17, 2005 at 18:05 UTC
Re: Answering Nodes and Approving them.
by cog (Parson) on May 17, 2005 at 16:03 UTC
    I, for one, try to do only one of the following things regarding a post:

    • Answer
    • Approve
    • Front-page

    This way, I share the responsibility for what I'm doing with at least one other person (possibly two).

Re: Answering Nodes and Approving them.
by jonadab (Parson) on May 17, 2005 at 18:54 UTC

    Some monks have a policy of only approving nodes they're not answering, in order to avoid any appearance of conflict of interest. It's a bit of a silly thing, really, but there's the idea floating about that if you answer a node and then approve it, you're promoting your own response post with it. If you let someone else approve nodes that you've answered, it avoids that.

    I don't think there's any consensus that you necessarily have to do it this way. There are monks who routinely both answer and approve the same node, and nobody jumps on their case for it, as far as I am aware.


    "In adjectives, with the addition of inflectional endings, a changeable long vowel (Qamets or Tsere) in an open, propretonic syllable will reduce to Vocal Shewa. This type of change occurs when the open, pretonic syllable of the masculine singular adjective becomes propretonic with the addition of inflectional endings."  — Pratico & Van Pelt, BBHG, p68
      I feel like this when considering a node for front-paging, because this gives the post much wider audience and it seems to me like I'm trying to cheat. Nonetheless, the right part of my brain agrees with you in considering this a bit of a silly thing.

      I wonder how many Monks check if the approver, or the front-pager, did also answer the node - that would be a really silly thing IMHO.

      Flavio (perl -e 'print(scalar(reverse("\nti.xittelop\@oivalf")))')

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Re: Answering Nodes and Approving them.
by johnnywang (Priest) on May 17, 2005 at 17:23 UTC
    I agree with davido. I don't see much reason for answering without approving, every answer is good for the community. We do forget sometimes, after all, approving doesn't get as much XP as answering, on the flip side, people can't down-vote your approval :-)
Re: Answering Nodes and Approving them.
by pboin (Deacon) on May 17, 2005 at 15:57 UTC

    Good question. I think that most of the time that's just an indication that the reply would only be of interest to the OP, and not to 'the public'. I've never heard it discussed, but I've thought of it as (more-or-less) a three-tier system:

    • Unapproved nodes, read by regulars
    • Approved nodes, read by regulars & searchers
    • Front-paged nodes, read by regulars, searchers and browsers

    At least that's how I've thought of it...

Re: Answering Nodes and Approving them.
by castaway (Parson) on May 18, 2005 at 06:03 UTC
    Just to add to the list: If you answer a node, please also approve it. The only case where this may not be warranted, is where you are replying to confirm whether the question is really about perl or not.

    I have also wondered why people don't do both.

    C.

      Maybe we should do approve on reply? If you reply and the node is unapproved it gets approved? Imo the times when people are replying and the node shouldnt be approved are so uncommon that the occasionally consideration to unapprove after wont be too much trouble?

      ---
      $world=~s/war/peace/g

        Maybe we should do approve on reply?

        I like this idea. Perhaps a checkbox could be added "I do not want approve this post" (default to off) so people have to take an extra step to not approve a post they're replying to.

        I'd go for a checkbox for "approve" and/or for "front page", whichever hasn't been done yet. The "approve" one could default to being checked, though.

        - tye