Well, basic it may be, however I've never done it. So what? Normally I work around it because I've known that "down the eval path usually lie monsters".. I mean, duh!

As for the templating, so what? Why does it bother you? I've used Mason and an early version of EmbPerl, and they both proved to be OK (Mason a bit more so), however both were painful to setup and messy in the logs. I don't purport to be writing Sheer Geniosity(tm) here, but I have the time for writing a templating system in an environment where it is likely that I will be the only one looking at the code. It's the third revision of a system, the second I wrote, and the first I maintained.

I appreciate the assistance I get here, even on the 'easy ones' but I can do without the smack.

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