in reply to [PT_BR] Escrever em Português no Perlmonks

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It saves Monges!

Second now our friend and Merlyn master, we must postar in the Perlmonks in Brazilian protuguês also to include monges and of other countries that Portuguese say.

It would like to initiate at this moment a movement for this and would like it support all and to know who is made use to initiate this, remembering that the idea nao is to stop of postar in English, when will be necessary that it is made in the two languages. But that this nao harms the ones that nao the English understands.

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Re^2: [PT_BR] Escrever em Português no Perlmonks
by jhourcle (Prior) on Jun 09, 2005 at 14:44 UTC

    I find that freetranslation.com tends to do a better job as compared to google's translators, or babelfish. (if nothing else, it at least got the word 'monks'):

    Save Monks!

    Now our second friend and main Merlyn, we should place in the Perlmonks in protuguês also for include the Brazilian monks and of others countries that speak Portuguese.

    Like to initiate in that moment a movement for that and would like the support of everybody and know who is arranged it initiate that, remembering that the idea nao is going to stop to place in English, when will go necessary that be deed in the two languages. But that that nao injure the that nao understand the English.

    I'm personally a native english speaker (with some dutch that I haven't used in 20 years, and some high school spanish that I haven't used in 12 years), but I'd be interested to know from some of the folks for whom english isn't their first language -- does knowing english help in writing Perl, as the keywords and internal functions are named in english?

    If so, can we assume that practicing english, even if it's not your primary language, can help you write better Perl?

      I think you should ask this in the other way. Does not knowing English make it very difficult to program (in perl or anyway)?

      My answer is yes. You must definitely know English at least to some very basic level. However, this basic level is not very difficult to aqquire, beacuse you have to understand only technical words, and the documents itself are often written by people who don't speak English well.

      To program, you have to be able to read the manuals. While some books of perl (and even some of the core perldocs) are available in translation, it's still very few as compared to those in English. It would be impossible to translate everything to every language.

        While some books of perl (and even some of the core perldocs) are available in translation

        And usually those translations are of very bad quality, because the translators know nothing or very little about perl (or xml, databases, or whatever).

        Once I bought a book about COM that was a translation from English to Spanish. But the translation was so bad that the only way to understand it, was to untranslate it back to English on my mind at the same time I was reading it, trying to find the original wording that actually made sense!