Perl's Chip Salzenberg Sued, Home Raided

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Re: Perl's Chip Salzenberg Sued, Home Raided by artist (Parson) on Jul 01, 2005 at 08:46 UTC
Perlmonk needs your help! --Artist	[reply]
Re: Perl's Chip Salzenberg Sued, Home Raided by Intrepid (Curate) on Jul 01, 2005 at 10:20 UTC
I was glad to have been informed about this matter, as sad as it is. Chip is completely in the right on this, of course, and yes, I feel strongly that extraordinary measures should be taken by as many perl programmers as possible to support Chip's victory over this injustice. As another node thread was referenced previously, I'll probably make further comments there. Soren A / somian / perlspinr / Intrepid	[reply]
Re: Perl's Chip Salzenberg Sued, Home Raided by zentara (Cardinal) on Jul 01, 2005 at 11:40 UTC
I just went to Health Gestapo Science, to see who they were, and they refused connections. Uh oh. I'm not really a human, but I play one on earth. flash japh	[reply]
Re^2: Perl's Chip Salzenberg Sued, Home Raided by gellyfish (Monsignor) on Jul 01, 2005 at 11:50 UTC
And there I was surprised to find that they were running a freshly installed Mandrake 9.2 with bizarelly identical apache configuration to mine: `Server: Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/2.0.47 (Mandrake Linux/6.12.92md +k) mod_perl/1.99_09 Perl/v5.8.1 mod_xslt/1.0.5a mod_ssl/2.0.47 OpenSS +L/0.9.7b DAV/2 PHP/4.3.2 Catacomb/0.8.0 mod_mono/1.0.5` [download] They had taken a rather strange scorched earth approach to defending themselves from being slashddotted: ; <<>> DiG 9.2.3rc2 <<>> www.hmsonline.com any ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 59083 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.hmsonline.com. IN ANY ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.hmsonline.com. 2525 IN CNAME mosquito.hmsonline.com +. ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: hmsonline.com. 2525 IN NS den-sns-02.inet.qwest. +net. hmsonline.com. 2525 IN NS phosphorus.hmsonline.c +om. hmsonline.com. 2525 IN NS silicon.hmsonline.com. hmsonline.com. 2525 IN NS dca-sns-01.inet.qwest. +net. hmsonline.com. 2525 IN NS den-sns-01.inet.qwest. +net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: silicon.hmsonline.com. 2525 IN A 67.132.206.14 phosphorus.hmsonline.com. 2525 IN A 67.132.206.15 ;; Query time: 17 msec ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) ;; WHEN: Fri Jul 1 11:46:29 2005 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 226 [jonathan@orpheus mirror]$ dig mosquito.hmsonline.com a ; <<>> DiG 9.2.3rc2 <<>> mosquito.hmsonline.com a ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10447 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;mosquito.hmsonline.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: mosquito.hmsonline.com. 2477 IN A 127.0.0.1 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: hmsonline.com. 2477 IN NS phosphorus.hmsonline.c +om. hmsonline.com. 2477 IN NS silicon.hmsonline.com. hmsonline.com. 2477 IN NS dca-sns-01.inet.qwest. +net. hmsonline.com. 2477 IN NS den-sns-01.inet.qwest. +net. hmsonline.com. 2477 IN NS den-sns-02.inet.qwest. +net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: silicon.hmsonline.com. 2477 IN A 67.132.206.14 phosphorus.hmsonline.com. 2477 IN A 67.132.206.15 ;; Query time: 8 msec ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) ;; WHEN: Fri Jul 1 11:47:17 2005 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 224 [download] He heh /J\	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^3: Perl's Chip Salzenberg Sued, Home Raided by halley (Prior) on Jul 01, 2005 at 13:47 UTC
And for those of us who don't read 'dig' output and Apache configurations in the same way that we read, say, an Agatha Christie novel, could you tell us the significance of these forensics? -- `[ e d @ h a l l e y . c c ]`	[reply]
Re^4: Perl's Chip Salzenberg Sued, Home Raided by gellyfish (Monsignor) on Jul 01, 2005 at 13:59 UTC
Re^4: Perl's Chip Salzenberg Sued, Home Raided by 5mi11er (Deacon) on Jul 01, 2005 at 14:04 UTC
Re: Perl's Chip Salzenberg Sued, Home Raided by Popcorn Dave (Abbot) on Jul 02, 2005 at 03:30 UTC
I caught this story yesterday on /. and if I read Chip's letter correctly, he was pointing out how they were disregarding people's privacy while doing web harvesting. Odd thing is that when you go to their page, their privacy policy is currently missing/defunct/being rewritten as we discuss. Very strange indeed... Useless trivia: In the 2004 Las Vegas phone book there are approximately 28 pages of ads for massage, but almost 200 for lawyers.	[reply]
Re: Perl's Chip Salzenberg Sued, Home Raided by Anonymous Monk on Jul 04, 2005 at 13:37 UTC
Health Market Science proudly presents several of its customers on its website (http://www.healthmarketscience.com/customers/customers.html). Does any Perlmonk work at one of those customers? High enough in the companies pecking order to do something? (Have the company find a replacement for HMS, send a "we are concerned" letter to the CEO, etc). Or should be write the CEO's of HMS customers, and send them a link to the geeksunite web site?	[reply]
Re: Perl's Chip Salzenberg Sued, Home Raided by Anonymous Monk on Jul 02, 2005 at 19:22 UTC
Modern help should go through alternative paths rather than simply giving money, don't you think so? Good help should just collect the required evidence to let him free. Or in case of finding the acussing evidence, publish it to clear everybodies minds. We shouldn't react as it should be expected any longer. There is a big wall growing between commercial mischief and the Internet world...	[reply]
Re: Perl's Chip Salzenberg Sued, Home Raided by PhilHibbs (Hermit) on Jul 07, 2005 at 08:48 UTC
Your assumption that just because we didn't all immediately say "Gosh, that's terrible, I didn't know about that", therefore we don't care and were going to do nothing, was ignorant and rude.	[reply]