grinder, I +'ed your reply, but respectfully disagree. I know it's very popular around the monastery to trash javascript, but as a web developer and surfer, I find it extremely helpful, and so far harmless (hmmmmm, the topic of this thread notwithstanding). Personally, I only build tableless, CSS2 and XHTML sites, but there are things that javascript does that are cumbersome, at best, using other methods. And thanks to Internet Exploder, it's impossible to have CSS menus without a javascript hack. CSS is great, but it's not a conditional language.

I don't use JS for validating forms or encrypting passwords (Perl does that for me), but use JS in those places where HTML and Perl can't do it as efficiently. And if someone wants to do damage, they don't need JS do it.