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Re: API or scraping perlmonks.org for external reward systems?
by Corion (Patriarch) on Jul 27, 2005 at 11:59 UTC

    As you haven't stated either your motives or the benefit that this site would have from being in cohorts with BlogShares, I had a quick look around this site. Its own description says:

    BlogShares is a fantasy stock market where weblogs are the companies. Players invest fictional dollars on shares in blogs. Blogs are valued by their incoming links and add value to other blogs by linking to them. Prices can go up or down based on trading and the underlying value of the blog.

    I don't really understand how PerlMonks could be treated in this respect other than participating in a circle-jerk cross-linking, which I can't imagine as productive at all.

    There also seems to be a pay-for-a-link scheme going on, as this "sidebox" text seems to suggest:

    20 Chips for a link
    Just reopened! You link to my site, I'll give you 20 chips. Link should not be in post form, but on the side/blogroll. As long as I have chips in the mission, game on! Put a...

    I understand that Perlmonks linking to other sites would be beneficial to the other sites, but I don't understand what Perlmonks could gain from this at all - I more wonder if this is a cheap device to employ google-bombing and blog-spamming to improve search results. I only wonder if the link to BlogShares that you posted in your root node maybe already counts as eligible link towards this goal.

    This not so randomly picked story seems to reinforce the idea of post-spamming for spammings sake - posts on Perlmonks get posted because the questioner wants a solution to their Perl problem, and get answered because the answering monk wants to help, and not because of somebody trying to advance in some weird game of shares.

    So, as long as you don't explain what benefits for the website could come out of this, I say that your idea is a dangerous idea that will be very detrimental to Perlmonks.

Re: API or scraping pm.org for external reward systems?
by ysth (Canon) on Jul 27, 2005 at 07:31 UTC
    Your starting place would be What XML generators are currently available on PerlMonks?, but there isn't an appropriate ticker there. Looks to me like you'd need to talk someone into implementing something for you. I'd suggest something that returned info for all monks that have been here since time X (where time X is at most a week in the past).
      There is in fact such a thing, just not documented. Tinymicros uses it..

      C.

Re: API or scraping pm.org for external reward systems?
by jbrugger (Parson) on Jul 27, 2005 at 07:35 UTC
    What does perlmonks have to do with BlogShares?
    Like jryan said, should we really care about XP?
    Please don't make this place into a new http://www.experts-exchange.com. If you want stats, read them here

    "We all agree on the necessity of compromise. We just can't agree on when it's necessary to compromise." - Larry Wall.
Re: API or scraping pm.org for external reward systems?
by castaway (Parson) on Jul 27, 2005 at 07:40 UTC
    You could go grab the data from Tinymicros, for example. OTOH I think that site may have bandwidth/download limits, so you should probably check with jc first.

    BTW, "pm.org" and "perlmonks.org" are two different things.

    C.

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Re: API or scraping pm.org for external reward systems?
by japh (Friar) on Jul 27, 2005 at 07:39 UTC
    There's no direct connection, besides a work force on one end and a set of projects on the other. XP is a vague, debatable measure of quality participation here, but it's the best automated measure available.

    It might have been smarter of me to discuss the rationale of the project before getting into the "how".