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Re: Conversion from Web script to stand-alone
by Joost (Canon) on Aug 13, 2005 at 14:56 UTC
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Can i easliy convert my CGI script and modules into a form that can use the windows explorer windows as the interface front end,
I'm assuming you mean Internet Explorer.
then produce output into this without loading up the script in th window,
Huh? What do you mean by "loading up the script" ?
OR, having to create a new interface and script specifically for standalone versions.
You might be able to port the whole thing to a stand-alone application with a built-in web-server. See HTTP::Server::Simple. Looks reasonably straight-forward. If you need other applications (like a database server) you'd have to find easy-to install alternatives for those too (like SQL Lite).
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I second the idea of porting the program to a stand-alone application with a built-in web server, as an alternative to HTTP::Server::Simple you could try HTTP::Daemon (it's what I've used when I've done this before).
The way this will work is that you'll be pointing Internet Explorer (or your other web browser of choice) to your local machine, something like http://localhost:8080 (the number represents the port that the HTTP server is running on, and can be changed).
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Hi,
At the moment its stored on a Linux box so can be run through any web browser, but what i meant was the windows explorer interface. The interface that runs Windows. Not internet explorer.
At present when you use the <form> tag in the html page and just use it to call a .pl or .pm file it just loads that into the window pane.
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That's because you need a HTTP server to process HTTP requests and spawn CGI scripts.
Probably the easiest way to get this to work quickly is to use a simple HTTP server like the one I pointed to in my post), especially since you're apparently still using a default browser to look at the HTML pages (IE just embeds in the explorer window if you have it as the default browser) - you could just as well make a perl (or .bat) script that starts the HTTP server and then points IE to the start-page.
But maybe I'm just misinterpreting what you're saying....
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what i meant was the windows explorer interface. The interface that runs Windows. Not internet explorer.
The Windows Explorer interface can't do arbitrary
things. It's just a file and folder management
interface; it does not do much of anything else
(okay so it does also display the taskbar...),
and specifically it doesn't do any of the things
you would normally use CGI for; it does not, for
instance display or process the results of
form elements. Mostly it copies files and launches
application processes. I'm pretty sure what you
actually meant was something other
than the Windows Explorer interface. I'm not 100%
certain what you did mean, but I'm pretty sure
that that's not it. There must be a
confusion of terminology (which is fairly common
when dealing with Microsoft stuff).
The question is whether you meant Internet Explorer,
or the Win32 widget set, or some other thing.
But you almost certainly
didn't mean Windows Explorer, at least not if you
have any real understanding of what Windows Explorer
is or does. My best guess is that you meant the
Win32 widget set (in which case, the answer is no,
converting from CGI to that is not easy, and you
should instead consider the other approach, which
others have discussed, of using a standalone
web-server module and allowing the user to use
Internet Explorer as the interface even though the
app is running on the local system, not remotely),
but that is only a guess, because you have not
described in precise detail exactly what you want.
"In adjectives, with the addition of inflectional endings, a changeable long vowel (Qamets or Tsere) in an open, propretonic syllable will reduce to Vocal Shewa. This type of change occurs when the open, pretonic syllable of the masculine singular adjective becomes propretonic with the addition of inflectional endings."
— Pratico & Van Pelt, BBHG, p68
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Try PerlTK to create your own windowslike gui. but it wouldnt be easy, though.
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Brute force?
by BerntB (Deacon) on Aug 13, 2005 at 22:53 UTC
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You can't just write a small command script that starts Infernal Explorer with an URL to your program?
Brute force and ignorance -- don't underestimate it! :-)
If you can't do that, it will be a bit of bother. You need people to install Perl. (-: Arguably, not a bad thing. :-)
Let your program generate a temporary file and start Internet Explorer with that file.
Someone that knows more than me about Windows and Win32::OLE are sure to expand on this ignorant newbie's post with more explicit advice on how to (a) find the temp dir on Win and (b) how to start Internet Exploder.
Update: I assume above that the form parameters can easily be translated to command line parameters. The other answers assumes the configuration is too complex for that? If so, a small http server might be the best choice to translate your program fast (you need to copy/paste sequences, I guess?).
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Re: Conversion from Web script to stand-alone
by srdst13 (Pilgrim) on Aug 14, 2005 at 01:02 UTC
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While this may be anathema here, have you thought of moving over to java? All the bio-based tools are available there as java classes. Then, your standalone will run nearly anywhere. The methods for making a user interface are also fairly well-developed. I find myself turning to CGI for nearly all of my perl-based GUI stuff, but for a standalone, CGI may be a bit of a bother, especially on the windows platform.
Sean
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I guess I should look into PAR some more. I agree with your java poke(s). I haven't learned much yet, either.
Sean
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