I have been using the "GUI Application" feature since day one. I dont want the user to see the console window. But it has been useful to say to them, "open a console window, then run the programme, now tell me what you see".

What I have done right now is to create a new Toplevel, with a text widget. The I tie STDOUT to that I I can get the output. It is actually nicer, because I can do that without having to have the user run the app from the console. I can control the presence or otherwise of the "debug" window from within the application.

jdtoronto