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footpad,

Thank you for your response1(damn I'm outta votes!). I think you nailed the underlying issue that was bothering me but I couldn't get my finger on, that being the "judgement of fitness".

Some of us learned how to program in a vacume, without books or teachers, and yes there are a lot of bad habits that need to be broken from such an education. Although I still can't see a debugger as a bad habit -- it's just another tool.

There are so few that even attempt to code, and such harsh judgements only serve to detract from the education that such judges are trying to teach.

Telling a child that they are stupid when they do something wrong does not teach them how to do something right, it only re-enforces a sense of futility.

coreolyn

1Great Mozart / Salieri comparison

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by footpad (Abbot) on Dec 29, 2000 at 02:52 UTC
    coreolyn,

    To my mind, ignorance can be corrected through education and experience; intolerance can't.

    Or, stealing another cliche, "you can lead a man to logic, but you can't make him think."

    --f

    P.S. Amadeus is one of my all-time favorite plays and movies. Historically inaccurate, but still worthwhile, even nearly twenty years later. I *want* to play Salieri some day.

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      See now my backgrounds a bit more blue collar. I learned that cliche as:

      You can lead a camel to water, but unless you've got two bricks to smash his balls between he won't drink it.

      Hmmm, I think that must be the way merlyn learned it too -- just kidding merlyn!

      coreolyn

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