I never peed in a cup for them either.

I'm willing to bet that most people swayed by the biting "documentary" stories they see on Dateline, and other hard-hitting news programs, would immediately say, "This person refuses to submit to a piss test, so he must be doing drugs." That's disturbing that most "mainstream Americans" would accept this form of intrusion (any type of drug testing) without flinching. So, I figured I would just say thanks to lemming for "stickin' it to da man". :)

As an aside, it'd be interesting to see variations of this in a poll. I'm wondering if it's truly an extension of the community's support of privacy or if it's a necessary extension for fear of being caught. Furthermore, does recreational use (if applicable) affect your ability to work?

ALL HAIL BRAK!!!

At one company I used to work for, there was an unwritten policy of not doing drug tests, since we would have lost a great amount of our creative talent...

Someone who works for a company that's thinking of hiring an American joked: "We have random drug tests too. They blindfold us, give us a pill, and half an hour later they ask us what it was."

Not exactly how things work here, but I haven't heard of the other kind of drug tests either. I think it would be quite an invasion of privacy.

Yeah, for what it worth (and, market willing, I'm worth a reasonable amount); I'll never pee in a cup for anybody. If they've got a question about my 'past life' (hey, I'm married w/ a child, those days are, alas, alack and its not so bad, over) or my "usage" ask me, but no amount of cash'll get a sample out of me.

Or so I say I now, the 'w' future may be different ;->.

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I think I left an illegal one in that was non-applicable just as insurance if I missed something else.

If you did that, you wasted your time. One bad clause doesn't void a whole contract. And just to make sure, most boilerplate includes a clause that says something like, "... and if a clause is found to be invalid, that portion will be struck without voiding the rest of this document..." only in much deeper lawyerese.

Now the last place I worked was hyper-active about such things but when they got bought and then re-merged our old employee contracts and agreement were voided and the new ones were much less intrusive since they knew no one would work under those old nasty NDAs and Non-competes. They knew that because people in CA and NY and TX had started making the non-existence of those documents a requirement of their employment. I actually saw a Non-non-compete one guy had. =) Warmed my heart. Later, before they ever made us sign anything, they fired me and paid me extra to not come back or talk to anyone there about what I did or consult for them for a whole year. I told the boss that fired us all, "pay me a bit more and I'll never talk to you again, promise!"

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