in reply to Firefly

Firefly (and Serenity) rocked. I saw the movie before the series, and it got me hooked. "Joss Whedon is my master now"
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Re^2: Firefly
by tirwhan (Abbot) on Nov 10, 2005 at 22:08 UTC

    Absolutely, best Sci-Fi TV series ever. The pilot alone is worth buying the DVD for IMO (haven't seen Serenity yet, it'll only come out over here in two weeks).


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Re^2: Firefly
by merlyn (Sage) on Nov 11, 2005 at 16:15 UTC
    Just to be a vocal counterpoint, I hated Firefly, and probably for the same reason I hated Babylon 5 and the current Battlestar Galactica (not the original), and Voyager, and soap operas in general. (And probably Buffy, although I never started watching Buffy.)

    The story arcs are too long.

    I want my excitement to climax in 50 pages, and then conclude. Even two parters frustrate me.

    I find it odd that I'm on the opposite side of the fence from the "MTV-Generation". They like the long story arcs, but they want videos cut every four seconds and shaky-cam handheld shots. I want good one-hour dramas, and nice decent photography.

    -- Randal L. Schwartz, Perl hacker
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      Interesting. I guess you must have really hated the LOTR movies then ;-)?

      For me, if there's one complaint I have about Firefly it's that it still clings to the one-story-per-episode type format. Sure, there are longer background story arcs in there, but the main "adventure" is always just one episode long. I'd have preferred the approach they had with the old Doctor Who shows where you never really knew whether the story would end in half an hour or four weeks. Adds more suspense :-). To each his own.


      Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -- Brian W. Kernighan
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        Interesting. I guess you must have really hated the LOTR movies then
        Precisely. The movies were unintelligible without the books, but even when key points were explained to me (since I had never read the books), I still thought the movies failed as movies.

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      I think that it is very much a personal preference as I enjoy both short and long stories, but I can very much live without the shaky-cam. It's become a naff cliche. Now if they could get people to direct true science fiction films with the skill, seriousness and gravitas of Ang Lee's direction of "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" I'd be a happy camper.

      Elgon

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        the skill, seriousness and gravitas of Ang Lee's direction of "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon"
        Would it be threadjacking to say that I hated that movie too? {grin}

        For an example of a movie I liked, I really liked Batman Begins, even though I hated the two or three intermediate movies (every one except the first).

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