Re: Re: (tye)Re: Get input data from STDIN *and* query string

Those explanations have happened repeatedly in this venue and others. And maybe we shouldn't be so quick to presume that you've seen them, but then again, the damage that your code causes in propogating a bad meme requires swift innoculation, lest someone see your bad code and not notice the correction.

The cargo culting of "read(STDIN, $buf, $ENV{CONTENT_LENGTH})" in all those "teach yourself CGI in 37 microseconds" has not helped. Maybe I'm particularly sensitive about that, since CGI.pm is just too frickin easy to use, and is already installed with all modern Perl distributions.

-- Randal L. Schwartz, Perl hacker

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(tye)Re2: Get input data from STDIN and query string by tye (Sage) on Jan 11, 2001 at 01:33 UTC
lest someone see your bad code and not notice the correction. Respectfully I suggest you go reread the very first response to your "correction". Your first response didn't do a very good job of discouraging reuse of the "bad" code so perhaps you should rethink your strategy. Friendly advice: If you want people to take you seriously, then give a reason why they should follow your advice. I think that increasing the "volume" of your objections just makes it more likely that the recipient will become defensive, making it harder for people to take them in. Since this comes up over and over and you reply to it over and over, please, take a minute and put together links to previous discussions of it so you can reference that the next time (you can build up this node or web page as time goes on as well, so even one link would be a useful start). This has been suggested several times before but I have yet to see it done. You seem to really take this cargo cult problem seriously so I don't understand why you don't take the time to address it a more effective (and polite) way. There are constantly going to be new Perl Monks and, being new, nothing we do here is going to change much about the ideas and attitudes they start out with. So we mostly just have to adapt to them. - tye (but my friends call me "Tye")	[reply]

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(tye)Re2: Get input data from STDIN *and* query string
by tye (Sage) on Jan 11, 2001 at 01:33 UTC

lest someone see your bad code and not notice the correction.

Respectfully I suggest you go reread the very first response to your "correction". Your first response didn't do a very good job of discouraging reuse of the "bad" code so perhaps you should rethink your strategy. Friendly advice: If you want people to take you seriously, then give a reason why they should follow your advice.

I think that increasing the "volume" of your objections just makes it more likely that the recipient will become defensive, making it harder for people to take them in. Since this comes up over and over and you reply to it over and over, please, take a minute and put together links to previous discussions of it so you can reference that the next time (you can build up this node or web page as time goes on as well, so even one link would be a useful start). This has been suggested several times before but I have yet to see it done.

You seem to really take this cargo cult problem seriously so I don't understand why you don't take the time to address it a more effective (and polite) way.

There are constantly going to be new Perl Monks and, being new, nothing we do here is going to change much about the ideas and attitudes they start out with. So we mostly just have to adapt to them.

tye

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