Ok so it works and I've been playing with

$face &&= 1;
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and I think finally get how that's working. (Never used && outside of a conditional before -- cool). But I don't see how it's not popping a 'uninitialized warning' on $face in the map statement when I supply '3d6' as an arg as opposed to 3d6s. If I pop a debugging

print "$face\n";
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afterwords it does pop an unitialized warning, and I would have expected it to print a '0'.

coreolyn -- arm tired from head scratchin :)