hi, my code in use is much more formated than the posted one ,D but your code definatly rocks thx for the advises and inspirience. after i was finished with the code and tested it ,then publish here, i began writing a module / class for it because i defenatly will need this type of process a few more times in other progrmas that will handel mostly the same data ;D im quit new to perl so it takes me some more time to get into this hash in a hash and referencing it puting stuff in subs and so on ;D , but im working on it to get better ;D ,