in reply to Unix permissions vs ACLs (was: Windows for Unix Geeks?)
in thread Windows for Unix Geeks?

A compromise for the UNIX world might be to allow groups to belong to other groups.

-- Argel

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Re^2: Unix permissions vs ACLs
by Aristotle (Chancellor) on Jan 17, 2006 at 04:41 UTC

    That wouldn’t help much.

    You can get the same effect already if you expand subgroups manually. Of course, that makes large userbases difficult to manage. You could reduce the burden by generating /etc/groups via a preprocessor or some such.

    So this is proof by induction that nestable groups do not actually expand the expressive capabilities of the Unix model. They could make large userbases easier to manage, but everything you can express with them is expressible without them as well.

    ACL systems OTOH actually allow mapping scenarios that the Unix model cannot, and won’t be able to with nested groups either. Of course, they are also hard to handle and will fry your brain…

    Makeshifts last the longest.