Re^4: Perl 6 - I hope it won't take a decade

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Re^5: Perl 6 - I hope it won't take a decade by dragonchild (Archbishop) on Jan 18, 2006 at 15:32 UTC
Contribution methods: Write failing tests for Pugs Write failing tests for Parrot Ask questions on Perl6-language Run smoketests for Pugs Run smoketests for Parrot Ask more questions on Perl6-language Implement a feature you want from Perl6 in Perl5 and put it on CPAN Write failing tests for a Perl6 feature in Perl5 and give it to someone to pass and put on CPAN Ask dumb questions on Perl6-language None of these require any fancy knowledge or even a lot of time. Even one failing test contributed to any project or one additional platform to smoketest on (you don't have to diagnose, just report) is a meaningful contribution. My criteria for good software: Does it work? Can someone else come in, make a change, and be reasonably certain no bugs were introduced?	[reply]
Re^5: Perl 6 - I hope it won't take a decade by john_oshea (Priest) on Jan 18, 2006 at 15:29 UTC
If I could contribute, I would have done it in 2001. From the Pugs Overview: I know Perl 5, but not Haskell. Can I develop Pugs? Sure! The standard libraries and unit tests that come with Pugs are coded in Perl 6, and there is always a need for more tests and libraries. All you need is basic familiarity of Perl 5, and a few minutes to get acquainted with some small syntax changes. You will likely pick up some Haskell knowledge along the way, too. Problem solved :-)	[reply]
Re^5: Perl 6 - I hope it won't take a decade by tirwhan (Abbot) on Jan 18, 2006 at 15:23 UTC
I am looking at it positively ("it" here being Perl 6 development in all it's myriad forms). What I do not look at positively is someone who whines "I hope it won't take a decade", because that contributes exactly zero to the process. IMO. And if you really wanted to contribute you would, anyone can (and be it alone by donating some money to TPF for funding the main developers). There are ten types of people: those that understand binary and those that don't.	[reply] [d/l]
Re^6: Perl 6 - I hope it won't take a decade by Anonymous Monk on Jan 18, 2006 at 15:55 UTC
Then I suppose you would consider the mug-smashing incident as whinning. But, if I'm not wrong, that actually was the catalyst for Perl 6. Seriously, if it comes out a decade later, many things would have changed.	[reply]
Re^7: Perl 6 - I hope it won't take a decade by john_oshea (Priest) on Jan 18, 2006 at 16:07 UTC
...which would only be a problem if the design was fixed in stone at the start of that "10-year period" and was never altered.	[reply]
Re^7: Perl 6 - I hope it won't take a decade by tirwhan (Abbot) on Jan 18, 2006 at 16:13 UTC
you would consider the mug-smashing incident as whinning Absolutely not. There it was someone who was a well-respected member of the Perl community and who took it upon himself to shake people out of the complacency into which he felt they had fallen. He went to a room full of Perl luminaries and had the self-confidence to challenge the view of everyone in the room with very strong words (from what I've heard, I wasn't there). He succeeded in shaking things up and we all owe him. This case bears no resemblance at all to someone anonymously posting an apparently badly informed and poorly worded whine on an Internet forum. To affect change you first have to invest something of yourself. You don't seem prepared to invest anything except a few self-aggrandizing views. Argh, why am I even still responding... There are ten types of people: those that understand binary and those that don't.	[reply] [d/l]