in reply to Why Perl 6 is taking so !@#$ long

Name another language that's completely and 100% backwards compatible after a major version upgrade.

Look. C++ is quite compatible with C89 in the sense that most C89 programs you could think of would compile in C++ and produce identical behaiviour. It's not "completely and 100% backwards compatible", but I think it's at least as compatible as perl6 would be with perl5 (I'd bet this even on this stage of p6).

It's a bit OT, but for those of you who know C++ well, it's worth to think of a way to write a program that does something different in C89 and C++, work reliably and portably in both, but not in some obvious way like checking for a macro that only one of them defines.

I know of four ways but all of them use sizeof. The first uses the fact that apostrophe char-literals are of a different type in C and C++. The second uses that the visibility of a type declared inside a structure is different. The third uses the fact that struct labels are optional in C++ but not in C. The fourth is the only one that's my own invention:

typedef double number; struct hypergeom { number a, b, c; }; struct { struct hypergeom operator, (number); } function; int main(void) { if(sizeof(number) == sizeof(function = function, (number)4)) printf("C89\n"); else printf("C++\n"); return 0; }

I'd like to see a way to do this without sizeof. I couldn't figure out any even with the help of this list: http://david.tribble.com/text/cdiffs.htm. If you know any, please tell me.

Also C99 is quite compatible with C89. (On the other hand, C89 is not that compatible with original K&R C, nor is C++ compatible with C99.)