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Thank you very much for your encouragement, demerphq.

I'll think about it. And if I should actually decide to go for writing a patch, I'll of course try to submit it -- though I'm not too optimistic about getting it accepted...

I mean, realistically, why would any of you busy gurus want to spend time investigating a patch from a lil' girl without any credits in the perl community? In particular, as similar code has just recently been thrown out... and things overall don't exactly look like the whole world's been desperately waiting for this patch ;)

Also, although I'm not entirely new to C coding, I've never seriously attempted hacking Perl's internals (closest I ever got was writing a few XS modules), and I have due respect for all the concepts and conventions that have evolved over time. At least it'll take me a while to catch up... Anyway, I'll still look into it.

Well, I guess I should start lurking on p5p, to get a better feel for how things are being handled over there...

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Re^3: Japanese filenames and USING_WIDE in win32.h
by demerphq (Chancellor) on Nov 15, 2006 at 18:41 UTC

    I mean, realistically, why would any of you busy gurus want to spend time investigating a patch from a lil' girl without any credits in the perl community?

    Because the patch does things that are of value to the community, and because we don't judge the merit of a patch based on your reputation in the perl community. Now if you go on perl5porters and write a bunch of replies to bug reports you dont understand then you will quickly end up in the community killfile, but if you step up with a patch that is sufficient for the perl core developers to polish up and bed down thats a totally different story.

    Seriously, if the community sees you trying to do the right thing but with some rough edges they will step up to help you. We dont care who you are, we care what you contribute and whether your ideas are sound.

    And frankly we need people like you. Just based on your original post it sounds like you have some worthy contributions to make.

    Lastly: there arent that many Win32 devlopers active on p5p, since you apparently are one I reckon youd find yourself a lot more welcome than you realize.

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      This all sounds very good -- makes me want to start with the patch right away ;)

      Seriously, if that's how things are being handled on p5p in everyday real life situations, I'm positively impressed.

      What I meant was: we're all human, and even for the most technically minded of us it's not always easy to keep those human factors entirely out of our interactions and judgements. More specifcally, I'd think it's all too natural to apply a positive bias to people of whom we already know their merits, and a somewhat more critical or don't-care attitude towards someone we don't know yet.

      (There isn't really anything wrong with that - it's just how the world is.  This kind of "pre-judging" even makes sense from an information processing point of view: our brain has less extra work to do, if we don't have to fully re-evaluate the world around us every time anew...)

      Well, before this gets entirely off-topic, I'll just stop here :)

      Lastly: there arent that many Win32 devlopers active on p5p, since you apparently are one I reckon youd find yourself a lot more welcome than you realize.

      Maybe I should mention I'm not really a Win32 developer. I only occasionally develop for Windows, i.e. when it's required for some project at work.  Actually, my friends would rather describe me as a girl with a strange love for commandlines, text interfaces, and such... in short, the traditional unix way. I'm not religous about it, though - just prefer it. And my programming experience is distributed accordingly.

        Maybe I should mention I'm not really a Win32 developer. I only occasionally develop for Windows, i.e. when it's required for some project at work.

        Even being willing to work on both is a big asset.

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