in reply to Porting Perl 5.6 to Perl 5.8 issue with self-tie

On 5.8, the upgrade notes say self tie is not allowed
Only about hashes and arrays.

Tying STDOUT/STDERR should work...can you show exactly what you were doing?

Depending on what exactly you were doing, you may need to save *STDOUT{IO}/*STDERR{IO} instead of just \*STDOUT/\*STDERR.

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Re^2: Porting Perl 5.6 to Perl 5.8 issue with self-tie
by fwashbur (Sexton) on Dec 11, 2006 at 22:53 UTC
    Hey ysth,

    Hmmm, it would be a dream come true if it worked, but alas I get either nasty recursion errors or reference errors when trying this on 5.8. Basically we tie both STDOUT and STDERR to themselves and a logfile.

    tie *STDOUT, 'InstallerHandleTie', $outfile, *STDOUT; tie *STDERR, 'InstallerHandleTie', $outfile, *STDERR;

    InstallerHandleTie opens $outfile and saves both it's handle and STDOUT/STDERR. We override print and printf to print to the list of handles. Code shown below:

    package InstallerHandleTie; use strict; no strict 'refs'; use FileHandle; use Tie::Handle; our @ISA = qw (Tie::StdHandle); use File::Basename; use File::Path; my $handleId = 0; # this is a class variable so multiple ties # to same file will create different handles sub TIEHANDLE { my $class = shift; my @handles = (); # see if each handle is a filename or a real handle foreach my $h (@_) { if ($h =~ /^\*/ or ref $h eq 'GLOB') { # it's a handle (ie *package::name) or a glob push @handles, $h; $h->autoflush(1); } else { # assume it is a file name and try to open # create a handle name based on my $hname = "_FH_$handleId"; $handleId++; my $dir = dirname($h); if (!-e $dir or !-d $h) { mkpath($dir); } open($hname, ">$h") or die "unable to open file '$h': $!"; $hname->autoflush(1); push @handles, $hname; } } return bless \@handles, $class; } sub PRINT { my $self = shift; my $result = 0; foreach my $handle (@$self) { $result += print $handle @_ if (fileno($handle)); } return ($result == @$self); } sub PRINTF { my $self = shift; my $result = 0; foreach my $handle (@$self) { $result += printf $handle @_ if (fileno($handle)); } return ($result == @$self); } 1; # required 1 to end the Perl module

    I have played around with various forms of *STDOUT{IO} etc. But as long as STDOUT or STDERR are self tied it doesn't work and I get recursion. I was able to save *STDOUT, then do a local *STDOUT, then do the tie by passing in the saved value instead of the local value and this worked. The problem came in when I tried to do the same with STDERR. In this case all the output from STDERR disappeared. If I swapped the STDERR and STDOUT ties done in this manner, I would then get STDERR output and not STDOUT.

    my $gfh = *STDOUT; my $geh = *STDERR; foreach my $outfile (@logs) { local *STDOUT; local *STDERR; tie *STDOUT, 'InstallerHandleTie', $outfile, $gfh; tie *STDERR, 'InstallerHandleTie', $outfile, $geh; print "Writing to $outfile\n"; warn "Writing warning to $outfile\n"; untie *STDOUT; untie *STDERR; }

    Doing this results in the print getting to the log file, but warn does not.

    Thanks! Rick

      The problem came in when I tried to do the same with STDERR. In this case all the output from STDERR disappeared. If I swapped the STDERR and STDOUT ties done in this manner, I would then get STDERR output and not STDOUT.
      That's because you are essentially doing:
      perl -we'open FOO, "> baz"; open BAR, "> baz"; print FOO "one\n"; prin +t BAR "one\n";'
      where FOO and BAR have independent file pointers into the same file. If you want to share a logfile between two handles, use >> to force all writes to append at the end, or open the file outside the tie handler and pass its glob to your logger.

      This works for me:

      use InstallerHandleTie; my $gfh = *STDOUT; my $geh = *STDERR; foreach my $outfile (qw/log1 log2/) { open my $outfh, ">", $outfile or die "nope: $!"; local *STDOUT; local *STDERR; tie *STDOUT, 'InstallerHandleTie', $outfh, $gfh; tie *STDERR, 'InstallerHandleTie', $outfh, $geh; print "Writing to $outfile\n"; warn "Writing warning to $outfile\n"; untie *STDOUT; untie *STDERR; }

        That's it! Thanks I just figured out the same thing this earlier this afternoon.

        I forgot to mention that the 5.6-5.8 upgrade doc said that besides self tie of array and hash, globs also suffer from a similar problem and end up recursing. I guess I verified that one :)

        Thanks for your help, it's been a great first experience with the perlmonks!