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Is this what your looking for?

More'n'likely it's exactly what I'm looking for - thanks, ever so much, for the link (which I've saved).

I haven't downloaded anything yet - I'll wait until the new box arrives.

In the meantime, I'm wondering what "Express Edition" signifies. Is that just a euphemism for "Command Line Edition" ?

One of my other intended projects is to build a 64-bit GMP using VC++ 2005 and YASM using Brian Gladman's patches (http://fp.gladman.plus.com/computing/gmp4win.htm) which also cater for the "Express Edition" ... things are starting to look promising :-)

Thanks BrowserUk.

Cheers,
Rob
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Re: [OT] The free version of Visual Studio
by jonadab (Parson) on Jan 01, 2007 at 14:57 UTC
    In the meantime, I'm wondering what "Express Edition" signifies. Is that just a euphemism for "Command Line Edition"?

    In general, "Express Edition" signifies a cheaper version that may not have all the bells and whistles of the full version. The degree to which it is inferior, and the precise meaning of "cheaper", vary. If the full version is shareware, the Express version would normally be freeware, but that is not _necessarily_ the case when the full version is distributed commercially. I have seen "Express" versions of things that were limited-time trials, for instance.

    So "Express Edition" in itself does not imply a command-line interface. However, it is possible that the Express Edition of this particular piece of software may have that feature. (I don't know, as I haven't used it.)


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Re^3: [OT] The free version of Visual Studio
by moklevat (Priest) on Jan 02, 2007 at 04:30 UTC
    Hi Rob, Unfortunately perl can not currently be compiled using the compiler (VC 8.0) that is included with MS 2005 Express Edition (or the full Visual Studio 2005 for that matter). This is mentioned in the perl 5.9.4 README.win32 but not in the 5.8.8 readme. However, while working to compile perlce I found that 5.8.8 fails building at miniperl.exe, so I can at least confirm this for 5.8.8 using the 2005 version compiler. The 2003 version of the MS compiler seems not to be available from microsoft anymore. Hopefully the build problems will get sorted out shortly.
      Unfortunately perl can not currently be compiled using the compiler (VC 8.0)

      Now that you mention it, I vaguely recall reading about that. However, ActiveState do provide a 64-bit build - so the main thing is that I at least get hold of a compiler that I can use with ActiveState's 64-bit build (even if I can't actually build a 64-bit perl myself). I have the Enterprise Architect edition of Visual Studio .NET (7.0), but I'm not sure if it has what I need in the way of 64-bit support.
      I probably should have waited until I take possession of the new box before asking questions, but I was keen to put out a few "feelers" - and I'm glad I chose to do just that, as the responses in this thread have been very helpful. (Actually, SFLEX's reply wasn't all that helpful, but it sure was entertaining :-)

      I found that 5.8.8 fails building at miniperl.exe

      Yes, this was also reported by almut elsewhere in this thread ... it doesn't look very promising ... looks like my best bet of actually building a 64-bit perl is that my Visual Studio .NET can, in fact, deliver what I need.

      Cheers,
      Rob