in reply to Re^3: SOAP::Lite is asking for your help
in thread SOAP::Lite is asking for your help
Ask and ye shall receive:
(but first -- the quick summary -- they're looking for some maintainers to rewrite SOAP::Lite, and make a new module, SOAP::Easy, that's easier for people to understand)
Update: byrnereese has posted an updated version on the SOAP::Lite website.
State of the SOAP (was: Is SOAP::Lite still in development?) I do actively follow the group. I rarely have time to respond however between work, a kid, and a number of other projects I am actively engaged in. I tend to develop SOAP::Lite in bursts when need and opportunity converge and I have a god chunk of time to work with. As with any open source project, it is always looking for help and looking for members from the community to take the initiative to contribute (some have, and I should go back and incorporate some of their patches). I could write a State of the SOAP address to give the community a sense of what's up... if I did, it would go something like this: The SOAP protocol is still in wide use today as it has become native to so many development platforms.SOAP itself has also become an incredibly stable protocol. The WS-* Wars of the early millenium seem to have died down, and the few truly useful extensions to SOAP have been selected by the market. Most SOAP toolkits as well have stablized along with the protocol. Relatively speaking, the status of this SOAP toolkit is fair to good. SOAP::Lite works with the majority of endpoints, but has a number of interoperability issues with more modern implementations of SOAP servers and clients. The task of keeping SOAP::Lite up to date is a difficult one. The source code is notoriously complex, a mark of the ingenious Paul who created SOAP:Lite, and as a result baffles most inexperienced Perl programmers, and indeed may even frighten them off. I myself am given the highest respect in my office for signing up to maintain the module - I work with some of the brightest and most experienced Perl programmers in the industry and they all look at SOAP::Lite in awe. But I am not trying to inflate my ego, I am trying to set the stage for what should be next for Perl's only SOAP toolkit. If SOAP::Lite as a project is to attract more contributing authors, it is essential that the SOAP::Lite code base become easier to work with. SOAP::Lite could benefit a great deal from shedding a lot of the code written before the protocol had really matured, before the era of the WS-i, before a time where other toolkits and servers had agreed upon and embraced a set of best practices. SOAP::Lite should shift to become document-driven, as opposed to RPC driven. SOAP::Lite needs a re-write. SOAP::Lite needs to live up to its name of "Lite." SOAP::Lite should be built from the ground up to conform to the WS-i's requirements. It should be built first and foremost around a wicked WSDL parser and engine. It should be made more modular so that its components can be more easily swapped out for newer and better implementations without disrupting users and developers. It should take advantage of the number of perl modules that have evolved since SOAP::Lite was conceived to reduce code complexity and obscurity. SOAP::Lite needs your help. SOAP::Lite needs a group of 2-3 passionate people to take a fresh look at this critical toolkit for Perl developers and to usher into a new age of utilization, community growth, usage, and utility. Undertaking a project like this is not a trivial task. It requires months and months of dedicated time and attention. And then it must also be supported and maintained. This project would not start from ground zero. There is a vision and a plethora of tried and true code already within SOAP::Lite that shouldn't be needlessly thrown away. What we endeavor to do is make SOAP::Lite easier to grok and easier to work with. What we hope to create is a new module, called SOAP::Easy. Byrne Reese Lead Developer and Maintainer, SOAP::Lite
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