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in thread Perl Job Postings

I'll see what I can do about getting jobs.perl.org jobs into the "Jobs on the Web" category.

My point about j.p.o is that, regardless of any intent, there's an implicit "You must be at least this tall regarding the Perl community" to post a job there. Any company that's outsourced all of its recruiting to an agency (whether that's a good idea is outside of the point) probably doesn't even have the option to post jobs there. I'm sure there are plenty of good arguments about whether they should even be able to list Perl jobs if they can't control their hiring, but there are plenty of good job situations at plenty of decent companies just looking for good programmers and not all of them have completely synchronized with the community in such a way that j.p.o will bring them all together.

Further, there was absolutely no chance that I'd get development and design resources to do a single thing on Perl.com without even the possibility of remuneration. If it's really so offensive that Perl.com hosts paid job listings (and if those paid listings are really somehow strangling the free listings at jobs.perl.org), then I'm open to the idea of cancelling them if and only if there are other ways to make Perl.com at least pay its operating expenses.

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Re^6: Perl Job Postings
by virtualsue (Vicar) on Mar 10, 2007 at 09:47 UTC
    Last month, and not for the first time, I sent a recruiter who had contacted me with (for want of a better phrase) a "Perl job" to jobs.perl.org, and he promptly posted the position there. I have never really noticed that there was any sort of snootiness regarding one's standing in the Perl community and jobs.perl.org, and even if I had, I can't imagine caring. It's a good resource, and people with a legitimate need should use it. jobs.perl.com appears to be 100% US-centric right now so it doesn't fill quite the same need.
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Re^6: Perl Job Postings
by DrHyde (Prior) on Mar 08, 2007 at 10:29 UTC
    My point about j.p.o is that, regardless of any intent, there's an implicit "You must be at least this tall regarding the Perl community" to post a job there.
    The only barrier to entry of jobs.perl.org is knowing that it exists.
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      To quote from http://jobs.perl.org/employer/post:

      Any job submitted to this site must be primarily a Perl job. This means that you can request other skills but that Perl is expected to be the focus of the position.

      Postings are moderated by jobs.perl.org editors. Among other things, they require that

      You need to have the funds to pay anyone you hire. A job where the payment solely consists of equity in a business venture or a share of the (expected) profits is not acceptable. In addition, a job where payment cannot be negotiated before work commences is also not acceptable. For short (< 1-2 months) contract jobs, you are expected to be able to pay for a project at its completion. For longer contract jobs, you are expected to pay at regular intervals. For salaried jobs, it is expected that the salary will be paid on a regular basis starting at the time of an employee's hire. Postings for uncompensated volunteer work for non-commercial purposes are acceptable, [however].

      Their requirements are reasonable, I suppose, but it's still rather more restrictive than simply knowing the site exists.

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        You win my "pedant of the week" award. Well done :-)
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