in reply to Re^3: What's wrong with Perl 6?
in thread What's wrong with Perl 6?

Y'know, reading this thread and feeling the vibe, the discourse, the strength of community and interest in discussion and not only doing the right thing but being proven to be doing the right thing by the sort of community consensus that's been driving us forward for so long, I felt a great burgeoning sense of hope about perl 6 that I haven't felt for a long time.

And then your small-minded, nasty comments made me feel physically sick and nearly ruined it all until I realised that that was all they were.

Maybe you could try 'Shut the fuck up and write some code' yourself. Or at least don't bother the people who want to talk positively -and- write code. Because god dammit I'm loving this and I don't want you to spoil it any more than you already did.

-- mst, DBIx::Class maintainer, Catalyst and Moose contributor and perl advocate

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Re^5: What's wrong with Perl 6?
by petdance (Parson) on May 14, 2007 at 19:55 UTC
    I do write plenty of code. Perhaps you've seen my CPAN directory.

    There is no "community consensus", especially on Perl 6 and Parrot. Rounding up complaints from the peanut gallery doesn't help anyone. Discussing what people don't like is effectively organized bitching.

    xoxo,
    Andy

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      I think gathering things up and organizing them is useful, especially when they're put into a place that is easily linkable. Over the long haul this tends to reduce the repetition of questions. Well, at least the honest questions. I'll grant you that some of the questioners may be disingenuous, but I usually prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt.

      And of course even a perfect FAQ does not prevent people from asking frequently anyway. Nevertheless, I refer you to this sound advice from the Apostle Paul.

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        I agree with Paul's point, and I certainly don't mean to sound like code-writing is the only thing that's valuable in Perl 6. But at this point I also don't see that any amount of public communications is going to do anything useful, especially if it's going to draw Perl 6 developers away from coding.

        We can only hold off people with public discussions for so long before they say "I give up on this Perl 6 thing." I feel like anything being done w/Perl 6 that isn't writing code is, at this point, just navel gazing.

        xoxo,
        Andy

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