Re^2: Richard Stallman speaks at Hehigh University.

Well, I've been working as a software developer for about 11 years now. I spent the first 8 of those years working as an employee for an internet/web development company. The last 3 years I've been working as a freelance developer.

I've always been paid just to make/plan/design software. Some free/open source software, some for-sale products, but mostly custom software for use by a specific client (project ranging from a day's work to about two years).

In all those years I've never been paid based on sales, I've just been paid based on work (i.e. monthly pay, billable hours or fixed-price delivery). As far as I know that's typical here (in the Netherlands).

I'm not saying you can't get paid more if you can get another arrangement. One point I'm trying to make is that many programmers do get paid "on commission". The other point is that there is a hell of a lot of custom software that would (given market forces really would work the way I was taught in high school :-) ) cost about the same regardless of licence.

"What should it profit a man, if he should win a flame war, yet lose his cool?"

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Re^3: Richard Stallman speaks at Hehigh University. by girarde (Hermit) on May 25, 2007 at 17:01 UTC
My point is not that Mr. Stallman pursues the model he does. My point is that he seeks to prevent anyone from using another model. He thinks that proprietary software is wrong and that copyright and patent laws should not protect it. Unless I have badly misread much of his writing.	[reply]
Re^4: Richard Stallman speaks at Hehigh University. by naikonta (Curate) on May 25, 2007 at 18:54 UTC
He thinks that proprietary software is wrong Perhaps he does. What's about that? But I think that he mainly means that proprietary softwares are bad for the softwares and for the users. And it's been since Unix entered the commercial world. copyright and patent laws should not protect it On the contrary, copyright (or copyleft per GNU's term) is meant for software protection beside FLOSS licenses. Open source softwares? Share and enjoy. Make profit from them if you can. Yet, share and enjoy!	[reply]
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Re^4: Richard Stallman speaks at Hehigh University. by jZed (Prior) on May 25, 2007 at 18:34 UTC
Well you've misread at least some of it. Stallman and the Free Software Foundation are not against copyright protection, they are against licensing restrictions and hoarding of intellectual property. My copy of GNU emacs, for example contains this phrase: Copyright (C) 1993, 1994, 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc.	[reply]
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Re^4: Richard Stallman speaks at Hehigh University. by zentara (Cardinal) on May 25, 2007 at 17:18 UTC
Dosn't that reflect the complimentary (mirror-like ) nature of the cosmos? `Gates --- Stallman free software is bad --- proprietary software is bad software patents are good --- software patents are bad suits --- socks and sandals slave-driving capitalist --- freedom-loving anarchist you serve him dinner --- he sits and eats with you` [download] I'm not really a human, but I play one on earth. Cogito ergo sum a bum	[reply] [d/l]