in reply to Re: Perl Monks with learning disabilities
in thread Perl Monks with learning disabilities

As far as the comments about wearing a "star" or some such, I'm definitely not for putting targets on people with disabilities who post in a public forum. In an online community, everyone should be coming from the same level. (regardless the fun XP levels here). I don't think calling them out would be beneficial for them or for us. Even if it is optional.

Pardon, but how is having this announced (with consent, or otherwise) not a "calling out"? The sentiment of support for perlsyntax is appreciated, but it's a bit difficult to reconcile "glad you brought it up" and "I don't think calling them out would be beneficial" in the same post.

I don't think it should have been brought up at all, since the Monks shouldn't need to be treating someone specially to be decent.

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Re^3: Perl Monks with learning disabilities
by tuxz0r (Pilgrim) on Nov 29, 2007 at 02:48 UTC
    My statement was...
    It's good know something personal about a community member, as it helps bring us closer together. And, glad that you brought it up with perlsyntax's permission, so I'll definitely keep it in mind. However, ...
    To reiterate, I "appreciated" the bit of information about perlsyntax brought up by perlfan. I didn't say I agree with the post. I agree with the sentiment of the post, expressing concern. I also am glad he brought it up with his permission, instead of without.

    However, this in no way contradicts my statement in disagreement with "tagging" those with disabilities. I agree, bringing it up in a post in the first place is just like "wearing a star" and it probably will just draw more attention to perlsyntax's posts in the future, whether for good or bad. I don't think there's a big contradiction in my expression of appreciation for the concern (it was brought up, I might as well take it into consideration) and my disagreement about drawing attention to community members with disabilities.

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      I don't think there's a big contradiction in my expression of appreciation for the concern (it was brought up, I might as well take it into consideration) and my disagreement about drawing attention to community members with disabilities.

      <advocate whose=devil>Public concern is drawing attention.</advocate>

      *descends into meta* I appreciate your appreciation of the concern, as previously stated; I've not ever appreciated the original concern (because it drew attention, not because it wasn't nice of perlfan). I appreciate perlfan's intents/motives/whatever; the means were poorly chosen, IMO.

      You're absolutely right that your statements don't self-contradict - I'll slyly point out that the fact you'll keep it in mind means you are tagging perlsyntax :), which is why I had/have trouble reconciling them, but as logical statements, they're perfectly sound.

      *leaves the table*