Thanks for reply, I appreciate the time... when I ran this code (believe me I spent a day trying to run it various ways) I never successfully sent an email via gmail... I found a way to do it with Yahoo with a paid service (see in this thread if you are interested)... though I am curious if I could do this with a UserAgent and a day to play... Will stick that in my free time to do list and see if I have any success, if so I will be sure to post...