Your wackiness is enjoyable, I admit. I also admit that I enjoyed Wassercrackers as often as not though so the confession is not exactly a ++. What makes me completely turned off on you and by association any related project, besides the modal popups which require the mouse to close the layout, is stuff like this–

I can assure you that WebAPP is far safer then ANY other CMS out there.

What?!? By what metric? Where's your proof? Can you even name the top 10 others you just insulted? Why on Earth would anyone take your word for it? Actually, let's trust each other. I can assure you I can be trusted with your credit card numbers. I am far safer than ANY other person out there with it.

The code for WebAPP CMS reads like Perl 4 written by an eXtropia tagalong. Here's a snippet from the first thing I opened-

There's no higher praise for code than failing to compile under strict. No higher praise for a developer than to shrug and comment it out. Now with twice the emoting! Say... Old Wassernutters was a big booster for no strict... Maybe Santa got my letter.

Now, off to edit my CSS so I don't fan this smoke vent ever again.

Hi, this is Jos Brown, one who has worked since 2004 from the original WebAPP site created by Carter Brown (original copyright holder of WebAPP since 2001). I visit PerlMonks often but haven't said much as I usually stop in only when doing some research on some brick wall or another such as often is encountered when working on the WebAPP script. Members of the group that has been posting here were also members of the original site until mid-2006. As far as I know my criminal record is clean. :)

About WebAPP code being "ugly", yes we know the code was a mess, and a lot of it still is, but we're working on it. After 4 years I can't believe we don't have it all yet, but like was mentioned, it's a huge program and keeps getting added to all the time. We've made a lot of progress on it as can run with warnings turned for a couple years now. This was not possible before.

We are proud to announce that the new version (0.9.9.9) runs under strict for all public files, which is most of the system. We just yesterday released an RC to the public for help with final testing. Hopefully some will be bold enough to give some feedback. If anybody from PerlMonks is interested in Perl Open Source portal system development, we'd be very honored if you'd visit. Any extra help and feedback is much appreciated there.

There are a few of us there working on the project and very committed to it's development. We think it's a great portal system, and it does also work well as a CMS. The code still has a ways to go but we're making progress. It's already very feature-rich and continues to grow the most in this way, as that's what users push for the most.

Still working on the same old code as found in 2004 at the original project site...

WebAPP Project: Web-APP.org
Licence: GPL
Original Copyright: Carter Brown
Membership required to download: NO

"runs under strict for all public files..."
Is this some sort of a joke?

I see a much more advanced script at web-app.net

What is all this talk about "strict", the one from .org is simply hiding all the variables... under qw//.

What is the point to run strict if you are disabling it...

1. I'm not the maintainer of LucidCMS. I'm a user and sometimes code contributor. You calling it my project is a conclusion you made, and it's incorrect. Furthermore, there are three project listed there. One is in PHP with some JavaScript, one is in Perl, and one is in C with some Perl (I contributed to the Perl portion of that one). The fact that I can program in more than one language does not mean anything other than that I can program in more than one language.
2. The license is clearly available on the project summary page at SourceForge, which is where one would expect to find it when downloading from SourceForge.
3. No, I have not complained about downloading from SourceForge. I asked why I'd download from SourceForge when there's no download link to SourceForge from your site (at least not before signing up), and your site says specifically not to download from any site other than http://www.web-app.net for fear of "piratical spin-off sites". You're just plain twisting my words here.
4. My "specialty" is frankly none of your damn business. I program in Perl more than any other language. It just so happens that my favorite CMS is not in my favorite programming language, because some people do not make knee-jerk reactions based on something being written in a different language. Want to know why I'm upset? Because you and your friend called me a heroin addict and a thief. I think that's reason to be upset. That's an ad hominem, and clearly so.
5. I didn't attack anyone. That's clearly the modus operandi from your side of the thread. The only update I've made, and the only time I've said I didn't see something, is when I clearly explained that your license is not listed where one might expect it to be listed. You're again misrepresenting what I have said. I even complimented your community on its license once I took the time to find it, but when I try to be fair and objective you take the chance to abuse me again.

What's more, I'd say some of the users with a large number of posts here have far more than 2.2MB of Perl code on this site alone. That code is mostly written in response to questions in order to help people, rather than to harass like you're doing.

Most of the code I write at $day_job isn't part of an Open Source project out on the web for you to download. I am aware of no requirement to post links to the code nor the products of the code for my livelihood in my profile page. That you assume the links on my home node are the only projects on which I've ever worked is a logical fallacy called a hasty generalization, or more exactly a fallacy of composition.