in reply to Re^7: Windows Service Pack Information
in thread Windows Service Pack Information

Fine, it can be set to use NTLM between WIndows hosts. If that's the case then I stand corrected on that. Then again you can of course point to the simple instructions to do NTLM authentication using Solaris rsh to a Windows host (as the OP is trying to do). And the magic incantation that will make rsh encrypt its traffic so sensitive information (aside from authentication tokens) isn't sent in the clear.

OpenSSH is open, cross platform, under active development, and secure. Windows rsh is closed source, doesn't support secure authentication cross platform (without going through whatever arcane machinations are needed to get not-Windows talking NTLM), seems to be if not deprecated on the way out (going by this Vista document), and sends normal traffic in the clear.

Again: choose wisely.

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Re^9: Windows Service Pack Information
by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Apr 18, 2008 at 03:50 UTC

    The distinction, as I pointed out earlier, is that the rsh service is already installed, and possible running on the N tens, hundreds (thousands?) of internal systems the OP is trying to catalog.

    Getting permission to role out a new piece of software, that doesn't use an approved authentication mechanism that integrates with Domain-level and/or Active Directory GINAs in any vaguely security aware MS-based organisation, would at best take months of negotiations and testing, and probably never happen.

    And it doesn't need to be NT_AUTH... it can use any of the other Windows integrated Authentication mechanisms, including Kerberos, which is open, cross-platform, and perfectly secure.

    As for the "send normal traffic in the clear": That's why I stipulated "a secure network". Within most secure, corporate networks, most normal traffic, from emails to file transfers is sent in the clear. That's the reason for DMZs, to isolate internal from external traffic.

    Again: choose wisely.

    Wise words. I was. 10 years ago when setting up an NT-based network for the government departments of an entire medium-sized European country. After a year of investigation and testing rsh (the Windows version with NT_AUTH) was deemed secure. Not by me, but by people who know. FUD doesn't cut it.

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