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"bash" is being provided primarily for *you* to use, "perl" is there primarily because the system needs it.

Certainly there are a lot of users who will use bash but never use Perl. Likewise there are a lot of users who will use Firefox and never use bash. I don't think it's right to say one of them is "for the system" and the other isn't.

Are we saying that Perl is used so infrequently by system owners that its suitability for general use isn't important?

It's your right to complain about the fact that your assumption is in error that I'm not so sure about :-)

Reminds me of a Dilbert comic I can't find (but did find quoted a few places).

Dilbert: ...and people who don't bother to vote have no right to complain.
Dogbert: Why not?
Dilbert: Why not? It's obvious. No vote means no right to complain. You can't get much more logical than that. Besides, that's how I was raised.
Dogbert: You were raised by bumper stickers?

My own wise-ass remark is that complaining about the results of a particular perl build is well within the license, so it must be unreasonable to complain about those complaints.

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Re^5: blaming perl for not using a build policy
by Zen (Deacon) on Aug 29, 2008 at 21:50 UTC
    Not voting is a way of voting, IMHO.
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      Not voting is a way of voting, IMHO.

      I don't see how. Voting is a way of influencing something. How does not voting do that? What does not voting do...at all?

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        For (fictional?) simplicity, take a general election where the upper echelon gives you two corporate sanctioned products to pick from. An elephant or a donkey. 

        Case 1: donkey
donkey: 1
elephant: 0

Case 2: elephant
donkey: 0
elephant: 1

Case 3: no vote (or a write-in)
donkey: 0
elephant: 0
(mystery animal: 0/1)

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        3 distinct outcomes. If not voting didn't do anything, you'd have two. Also, if you vote for some goon to tell everyone what to do just because said goon is the best option, what this person does becomes your fault. Not voting, especially in a majority, hints at discontent, and hopefully entropy- our next great opportunity.
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