OK, thanks for clarifying. I guess the question is what does "needed" mean. chromatic asked, How can the language stay relevant? and offered this list as an answer. So by disagreeing with him, you're saying that Perl 5 can remain relevant without these significant additions. It's a good question, and open to much debate, but as it stands, I tend to agree with those who say that stagnation = death. By some measures, Perl (5) already has one foot in the grave. Do we want it to become an undead zombie like COBOL? Do we want Perl (5) merely to survive, or to thrive and surpass?