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in thread How much is Perl6 the community rewrite of Perl?

1. I said I followed the development as a lurker. As a lurker subscribed to perl6-all mailing list, reading mostly regularly. I know pretty well what happened the last 6 years.

2. I also didn't say or admit that my perspective is flawed. I only said what my perspective is.

3. Why should I spent one minute on coding for Perl 6 when I can actually do new stuff and solve my problems with an already good language which I don't have to bugfix (Perl 5).

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Re^4: How much is Perl 6 the community rewrite of Perl?
by chromatic (Archbishop) on Jan 02, 2009 at 21:39 UTC
    Why should I spent one minute on coding for Perl 6 when I can actually do new stuff and solve my problems with an already good language which I don't have to bugfix (Perl 5).

    If everyone had the same attitude, there'd be no PerlMonks, no CPAN, no Perl 6, and no Perl 5, to name a few projects which exist due to volunteer effort.

    I know pretty well what happened the last 6 years.

    If you think, as you wrote:

    Perl 6 didn't evolve, they threw away most of Perl 5, maybe except the sigil syntax, also things were promised that never were realized or could actually be realized, which formed a community of dreamers, following the dream of the ultimate programming language. And currently it looks like those dreamers weren't able to deliver _anything_ at least remotely stable, except a very fuzzy specification and a test suite.

    ... then I don't believe -- at all -- that you know what happened the past few years.

      If everyone had the same attitude, there'd be no PerlMonks, no CPAN, no Perl 6, and no Perl 5, to name a few projects which exist due to volunteer effort.

      I'm actively involved in many free software projects and I'm the maintainer of more than just one module on CPAN. I usually report any bugs I find in other peoples software. (And I in fact reported now fixed bugs I found in Perl 5). I even attend to Perl Workshops and held a talk last year. All this is pure volunteered effort.

        (And I in fact reported now fixed bugs I found in Perl 5).

        I thought you didn't "have to bugfix" Perl 5.

        I'm actively involved in many free software projects...

        Then you really ought to know better than to ask why you should contribute to a project. Either you care about its future or you don't (and if you don't, why would you lurk on a mailing list for several years and post untruths about it in public discussions?).

Re^4: How much is Perl 6 the community rewrite of Perl?
by jeffa (Bishop) on Jan 02, 2009 at 21:01 UTC

    I think chromatic meant that if you think you are on the outside, than that itself is the flawed perspective. The only one preventing you from "getting in" is yourself. You are welcome here. (If you know the secret knock. Just kidding. :P)

    jeffa

    L-LL-L--L-LL-L--L-LL-L--
    -R--R-RR-R--R-RR-R--R-RR
    B--B--B--B--B--B--B--B--
    H---H---H---H---H---H---
    (the triplet paradiddle with high-hat)
    

      Yes, I think I'm on the outside because I'm not involved in the language development. (And I don't plan to, I have more than enough projects going.) I described the image I got by following the mailing lists the last years.

      So my perspective isn't flawed due to too few information IMO. The only thing I didn't do was to become even more tightly involved with the whole project and write code. (Even though I once submitted a test to the PUGS SVN).