been around the block more times than you have probably had hot dinners, children left home but keep calling back (what am I doing wrong here?) parents on their last legs and all driving me insane. Used to help out in the forums to help younger bods to learn, the turning point is here Totally love my german shepherd and border collie, a sucker for waifs and strays of the animal kind. Just noticed the submit button is spelt stumbit - dislexic fingers - just like mine