Re: [PT_BR] Escrever em Português no Perlmonks

Ani met al hadiun haze! = I love this conversation.

I'm fine with people occasionally posting in whatever language they feel comfortable in, but not with the idea of filtering posts by language. There is bound to be someone who will come along and translate the OP to something more generally understandable. Heck, half the time we're translating posts anyway - even when they are in English.

But filtering posts by language is a way of shutting people out simply because they speak in an idiom you don't get. If we had the time and resources to make language accommodation changes, I would rather see a translation request flag placed on posts, so that someone interested in a post but not quite sure they understand it could alert those who knew the language and would be willing to translate.

Best, beth

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Re^2: [PT_BR] Escrever em PortuguÃªs no Perlmonks by LanX (Saint) on Jun 25, 2009 at 23:45 UTC
> Ani met al diun haze! Hebrew??? 8) > But filtering posts by language is a way of shutting people out simply because they speak in an idiom you don't get. Well, I think the idea should be to post in two languages, one of them English. Perlmonks could be technically extended to provide within the preview an automatic translation into English (e.g. realized through a google-API). So the poster may improve the translation (AND his English skills ;-) The filtering options should only fold the original language away, similar to the readmore-tag. OTOH this can only work for the most widespread languages, (and for Brasilian Portuguese it's already quite complicated to find good books and standardizations...) So if for instance Germans can provide a good perl-board what is hindering Brazilians or speakers of other "big" languages to do similar? > Heck, half the time we're translating posts anyway - even when they are in English Hmm, and in most of these cases bablefish would produce a much better text. ;-) Actually I have more problems to discuss with some native English speakers, which are sooo monolingual (i.e. clueless about other languages), that they don't know how to produce clearly understandable posts (i.e. without slang-words, hidden messages or other unnecessary but good sounding rhetorics). Cheers Rolf	[reply]

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Re^2: [PT_BR] Escrever em PortuguÃªs no Perlmonks
by LanX (Saint) on Jun 25, 2009 at 23:45 UTC

Ani met al diun haze!

Hebrew??? 8)

> But filtering posts by language is a way of shutting people out simply because they speak in an idiom you don't get.

Well, I think the idea should be to post in two languages, one of them English. Perlmonks could be technically extended to provide within the preview an automatic translation into English (e.g. realized through a google-API). So the poster may improve the translation (AND his English skills ;-)

The filtering options should only fold the original language away, similar to the readmore-tag.

OTOH this can only work for the most widespread languages, (and for Brasilian Portuguese it's already quite complicated to find good books and standardizations...)

So if for instance Germans can provide a good perl-board what is hindering Brazilians or speakers of other "big" languages to do similar?

> Heck, half the time we're translating posts anyway - even when they are in English

Hmm, and in most of these cases bablefish would produce a much better text. ;-)

Actually I have more problems to discuss with some native English speakers, which are sooo monolingual (i.e. clueless about other languages), that they don't know how to produce clearly understandable posts (i.e. without slang-words, hidden messages or other unnecessary but good sounding rhetorics).

Cheers Rolf

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