I know I'm off point, but I did look at Tk, NetBeans is better than it. The others I haven't tried. I'm used to N/beans, and it is my philosophy if it ain't broke, don't fix it. As it is many others way of thinking, I'm sure.

<\p>Just to finish this discussion I have Perl performing perfectly. It got over it's little hump and started talking to Java, or maybe Java was the moody one, or maybe I was the problem.

<\p>Thanks for all the help folks, I do appreciate it. The solution turned out to be very simple. It was staring at me, and if it had legs it would have kicked me...