in reply to Valid Email Addresses
in thread Expressing myself

Thank you Randal

I tend to avoid solutions based on multiple modules if possible, and in my limited exposure to the net I have found that simple, generalized, solutions based on real world situations tend to work very nicely, especially if you mark the pieces that do not conform.

Having had problems getting the required modules working properly on some win32 and mac systems, I tend to avoid them.

Yes, your friends' email address does indeed work, and is indeed valid, as would an entire list of others I have, maintain, and work with, and will not pass my simple (and admittedly ficokta) solution.

However, I would point out - *in general* - folks with addresses specifically designed for obfuscation tend to not want their email addresses to pass.

BTW - It's refreshing to know you are still you after all these years...keep the faith.

EEjack

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Re: Re: Valid Email Addresses
by merlyn (Sage) on May 13, 2001 at 20:29 UTC
    It's not just about obfuscation. There are people behind corporate email gateways that have no control over the fact that their address must have a local part that gets quotes around it, for example. You are harming a very real populus that you cannot see, and I am standing for their rights to use your services. I can't tell you the number of web forms I've tried to fill out with even just my tagging email address of "merlyn.SOMETHING@stonehenge.com" so I can track where the address is sold, and it gets rejected by some lame web programmers excuse for a program who has only seen the alphabet on the left side of the "@".

    So, this is not about obfuscation. That's a red herring. This is about real people, with real mail addresses that are far more characters than those that match \w. Do not shut them out just because you don't know one of them personally.

    -- Randal L. Schwartz, Perl hacker

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Meta - what did you mean by this?
by merlyn (Sage) on May 13, 2001 at 20:36 UTC
    BTW - It's refreshing to know you are still you after all these years...keep the faith.
    Hmm. Depending on my mood, I can interpret this all the way from "good job, keep up the good work" down to "f**k you, I'm doing what I want, in spite of your arrogant pitiful attempts at interference".

    Since I can't tell what it is, and I am researching how online communities interact, would you mind elaborating what range of emotion you attached (but didn't express explicitly) in that statement? For the record, and for the research. Thank you.

    -- Randal L. Schwartz, Perl hacker

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      Randal,

      Many years ago we had this very same discussion.

      For the record.

      I have *always* considered your advice and work to *technically* superiour and in almost every case the best *technical* solution to whatever the problem is at hand. I have a lot of respect for your *technical* abilities, and for your commitment to society in general in spreading your knowledge.

      However, I sometimes feel your solutions are not the best solutions for non-technical reasons - getting modules installed for example.

      So often times I say to myself - Yes, Randal is right, but this, for me, works better for this reason.

      And I think you can accept that, or at least in the past, you have done so.

      But on a person to person level, I find you condescending, obnoxious, overbearing and belligerant. You assume inferiority in others, cannot accept critizism and are prone to paranioa. We have never gotten along, and may never get along.

      Despite my feelings for you personally, I *do* find it refreshing that you do stick with your guns. I know how much abuse you take, and how it would be easier to bail out on a place like perlmonks, or the news groups. The fact that you haven't become warm and fuzzy to shed some of the abuse, and to recieve more accolades, that you have remained essentially, the same Randal I have known for over a decade, fighting the good fight, spreading technical knowledge, yes in a belligerant fashion, but openly and freely with whoever needs it, I find amazing.

      So, to answer your question, "Thank you, keep up the good work, your answer is better than mine but I am going to do it my way anyway", with no expletives.

      Regards,

      EEjack

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