Re^3: The maybe it is better written this way tool

If we want the fifth element of an array why don't we say:

$array[ 5 ]
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Isn't that DWIM?

Why does @array in scalar context evaluate to the number of elements? Why not just use $#array + 1 and have an array in scalar context return the first element, or the sum of all the elements, or the total length of all the elements?

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Re^4: The maybe it is better written this way tool by ikegami (Patriarch) on Nov 15, 2009 at 01:24 UTC
[ I don't see any relation between your post and mine or any other post in this thread, so it's rather odd that you posted it here. Seekers of Perl Wisdom would have been a better place. Meditations would also have worked if you gave your opinion on the answers to these questions. ] If we want the fifth element of an array why don't we say `$array[ 5 ]`? Isn't that DWIM? For some, yes. For some, no. It depends on whether you think of array indexes as offsets or as positions. Beginners think in terms of positions, but there are many reasons to use offsets. Why does @array in scalar context evaluate to the number of elements? Because it's very convenient for it to do so. Why not just use $#array + 1 and have an array in scalar context return the first element It's much more common to want to know the number of elements in an array than to get its first element. Besides, it's already super easy to get the first element of the array (`$array[0]`). or the sum of all the elements, or the total length of all the elements? Aside that it would be rather arbitrary to choose between the two, these are very rarely needed operations that can easily be achieved by other means, such as `sum(@array)` [download] and `length(join '', @array) -or- sum(map length, @array)` [download]	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^5: The maybe it is better written this way tool by Anonymous Monk on Nov 15, 2009 at 03:52 UTC
I don't see any relation between your post and mine or any other post in this thread It is in reply to your post: ID# 807189 [QUOTE] eh? Why not? [/QUOTE]	[reply]
Re^6: The maybe it is better written this way tool by ikegami (Patriarch) on Nov 15, 2009 at 05:05 UTC
Yes, and I questioned why it was a reply to my post. I don't see the relation with it. My post inquired about the choice of coding style you were advocating. Your reply questioned aspects of the design of Perl.	[reply]