Re^58: Interleaving bytes in a string quickly

And you see no contradiction in terms in: bytes can be stored using multiple bytes?

Values can be stored using multiple bytes. Characters can be stored using multiple bytes.

But a value is not a byte, if it is two bytes long.

So get in line with the terminology that the rest of the world is using. Multi-byte values in strings can be characters, codepoints or glyphs. Otherwise you risk being perceived as talking gibberish. (Oh! Where did I read that recently?)

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Re^59: Interleaving bytes in a string quickly by ikegami (Patriarch) on Mar 04, 2010 at 15:04 UTC
A byte is an integer with range 0..255	[reply]
Re^60: Interleaving bytes in a string quickly by Anonymous Monk on Mar 04, 2010 at 17:15 UTC
No. Neither Perl nor C uses the term "byte" to refer to a class of (unsigned) integers. A byte is the minimal addressable unit of memory. For the vast majority of modern, non-specialist cpus, that means 8-bits. And an 8 bit byte can vaiously contain unsigned integers 0-255, or signed integers -127-127, or 8 discrete boolean values. Wikipedia says: The byte ... is an ordered collection of bits, in which each bit denotes the binary value of 1 or 0. The size of a byte is typically hardware dependent, but the modern de facto standard is 8 bits, as this is a convenient power of 2. perlunicode says: Beginning with version 5.6, Perl uses logically-wide characters to represent strings internally. In future, Perl-level operations will be expected to work with characters rather than bytes. ... Under character semantics, many operations that formerly operated on bytes now operate on characters. It makes a whole lot more sense than "a byte can be stored in 1 byte or it can be stored in multiple bytes. But when it is stored in multiple bytes it is still just 1 byte". Of course, you'll probably start talking about that pretentious term 'octet' coined to be unambiguous, but unless your using a 12-bit or 40 bit dsp, there is no ambiguity. And if you are, the term octet is meaningless.	[reply]
Re^61: Interleaving bytes in a string quickly by ikegami (Patriarch) on Mar 04, 2010 at 17:19 UTC
Wikipedia says: The byte ... is an ordered collection of bits, in which each bit denotes the binary value of 1 or 0. The size of a byte is typically hardware dependent, but the modern de facto standard is 8 bits, as this is a convenient power of 2. I am referring to an ordered collection of 8 bits. And an 8 bit byte can vaiously contain unsigned integers 0-255, or signed integers -127-127, or 8 discrete boolean values. Or 8 bits of a stream of HDMI information, as is the case here. Thanks for the quotes. They said it much better than I did. You're trying to tell me that a byte of HDMI info on disk is suddenly not a byte of HDMI info if I place it in a Perl var, and that doesn't fly.	[reply]
Re^62: Interleaving bytes in a string quickly by Anonymous Monk on Mar 04, 2010 at 17:33 UTC
Re^63: Interleaving bytes in a string quickly by ikegami (Patriarch) on Mar 04, 2010 at 17:51 UTC
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Re^61: Interleaving bytes in a string quickly by IBlowGoatsSucker (Beadle) on Mar 04, 2010 at 17:59 UTC
/me waves back at the fellow sockpuppet	[reply]
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