It might make more sense to design the new site with a goal of merging in the PM stuff at some future point in time. That way PM6 actually gets off the ground. Trying to rewrite PM5 from scratch may prove to be too daunting for whoever volunteers to work on it. Plus it would likely be heavily tied to how much time Corion, tye, and jdporter can spare to help with the migration, whereas a new PM6 site wouldn't have those constraints (unless they ended up being the only ones working on it). Or maybe have one team focused on PM5 migration issues and another on developing the new site (with obvious feedback from the PM5 migration team).
Elda Taluta; Sarks Sark; Ark Arks
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Instead, we should create a more appealing design for Perlmonks.
But that's part of the problem: this PerlMonks is exceedingly crusty
— which is to say, very difficult to comprehend and to modify in any
major way.
Do you realize - we can't even change the encoding of the delivered pages
from windows-1252 to UTF-8 easily? The arterial blockages
in this site are simply too numerous and too great. As I said before - this
is somewhat analogous to the situation in the Perl 5 codebase, which was
one of the motivations for Perl 6 being a complete rewrite (besides the
fact that the language was conceived to be radically different from Perl 5).
I think the concensus is that PerlMonks could have a nicer user interface.
That's why I've expended countless hours over the last few years trying to
make it more stylable via CSS. You're welcome. Unfortunately, I don't know
that too many people besides myself are even taking advantage of these new
stylability features.
I think we also need to plug AJAX into this thing, but that's
another one of those major changes that requires not only buy-in by the
gods but their active involvement... and so far, they've been reluctant
to support it.
Aside: I find it interesting that in the most recent thread on the subject,
AJAX to reduce server load, not a single god felt motivated to weigh in.
One of the things that could be "refreshed" in a New PerlMonks is the
blood, or at least mindset, of the superusers.
I also came across this interesting factoid:
Pair.com does not allow "chat servers" in its terms of use.
That, in my humble opinion, is reason enough to find another hosting service.
A smart tag system is most helpful in organizing the contents.
I strongly agree. This is yet another useful modern feature which the gods
have inhibited — in this case, ostensibly due to concerns over keyword
spam/abuse as well as a lack of demonstrated usefulness. Despite the fact
that, time and again, people point out that a functioning keyword system
would make our stove-pipe "categories" (as seen in some sections such as
Categorized Questions and Answers) unnecessary and obsolete, and instead would work for all
sections.
Some past (sub)threads regarding the keyword/tagging question:
Don't get me wrong — I appreciate everything that the gods do to keep
the site functioning. They very much set the tone for the site as a whole,
through the establishment and enforcement of policies and norms. Yet I can't
help but feel frustrated by the lack of participation, sometimes, and the
lack of transparency.
I don't want to forget about this thread: Perlmonks and the web
What is the sound of Windows? Is it not the sound of a wall upon which
people have smashed their heads... all the way through?
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