Re^2: Is // a "Null coalescing operator" ?

I already read the definition but I wasn't sure what a "nullable type"š) was supposed to mean.

So you say "null" in C# corresponds to "undef" in Perl?

(e.g. JS has both, "undefined" and "null", which are different)

Then consequently these attempts to list the or-operators from JS, Ruby and Python as examples are wrong(?)

Cheers Rolf

1) I imagine a non-nullable type is a type which doesn't allow uninitializing declarations, or in perl-lingo my $typevar wouldn't be allowed but my $typevar=init() would.

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Re^3: Is // a "Null coalescing operator" ? by Anonymous Monk on Aug 09, 2010 at 01:54 UTC
I already read the definition but I wasn't sure what a "nullable type"š) was supposed to mean. So you ask "what does nullable type mean?" see? :) So you say "null" in C# corresponds to "undef" in Perl? Yes, in the case of defined-or operator, in perl it really means not-undef-or and in C# it means not-null-or See the caveats Nullable Types (C#) Then consequently these attempts to list the or-operators from JS, Ruby and Python as examples are wrong(?) I don't see how	[reply]
Re^4: Is // a "Null coalescing operator" ? by LanX (Saint) on Aug 09, 2010 at 10:33 UTC
> So you ask "what does nullable type mean?" see? :) no I don't see. My question was Is // a "Null coalescing operator" ? (look at the title...) These C#-docs produce a knot in my brain, and I'm not sure if it makes sense to compare to a dynamically typed language like Perl. Anyway in the meantime I found something clear in C# docs: There is no value that signifies "undefined". In many programming applications, most notably database interactions, variables can exist in an undefined state. For example, a field in a database may contain the values true or false, but it may also contain no value at all. Similarly, reference types can be set to null to indicate that they are not initialized. Perl (and JS and the others ...) has undef, e.g. whenever one declares a variable without initializing it. `my $is_undef;` IMHO the wikipedia article should have the name of Perl's operator, since it seems to be mainly a feature of dynamically typed languages. Cheers Rolf	[reply] [d/l]
Re^5: Is // a "Null coalescing operator" ? by JavaFan (Canon) on Aug 09, 2010 at 23:49 UTC
I don't know C#, but what you quote refers to a database NULL. The term "coalesc" is something I associate with databases as well. A (relational) database NULL is certainly not equivalent to a Perl undef. Ignoring lots of details, the basic difference is: `undef binary-OP defined-value -> defined-value NULL binary-OP not-NULL -> NULL` [download] In other words, once you have a NULL, if you apply operations to it (except a few special ones), you remain having a NULL. undef is quite different - it happily behaves like a defined value (0, or the empty string), and once you start applying (most) operations on it, it becomes defined. `NULL + 1 == NULL undef + 1 == 1` [download]	[reply] [d/l] [select]